What I don’t get is why it took them decades to figure this out. Why have they been giving us sugar substitutes without understanding what they have been doing to us? Why were these approved for use in the first place?

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      Ingesting chemicals to mimic sugar so you can have sweet things with no caloric consequences doesn’t seem insane to you?

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          Seems pretty ridiculous on face. Everyone is comfortable acknowledging how evil food and chemical companies are, and that is not new info

          This is the equivalent of believing tobacco companies about cigarettes and then being super surprised down the line that they either lied or didn’t do enough research

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              Ingesting chemicals created by known bad actors in the food and chemical industry for the purpose of having those same bad actors sell you unlimited addictive sweets…

              I mean come on

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                If your entire argument is “food industry bad”, that’s not very convincing. Do you somehow produce everything you eat yourself? Do you make your own clothes too, from resources you collected yourself? Did you collect the resources to make the device you post on yourself and put them together?

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                  I do my best to purchase the most sustainable and quality versions of any given offering I can. I’ll also readily acknowledge the harms and where we do and don’t have choices

                  But I’m not sure how you jumped from the notion that the industries behind artificial sweeteners, who we already know are verifiably bad and overtly acting against the interests of public health to… you didn’t make your own clothes so artificial sweeteners are actually safe and awesome 🤪

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                    Like the other dude said, if your only argument is “OMG, everybody knows that corporations are evil, they must be selling poison”, that doesn’t rise to the level of obvious.

                    It’s like saying that since the US federal government in the 60s was racist and transphobic, they must have faked the moon landing.

                    If it were “obvious” that a sugar substitute was dangerous, the sugar companies would have trumpeted that as loudly as they could.

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                    I never said artificial sweeteners are safe and awesome, don’t put words in my mouth. What I said was that if your argument is “food industry bad therefore sweeteners bad”, you can’t trust and buy absolutely anything from any industry.

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                For me, I think there could be room for scientific advancement. I mean look at all we have today that we wouldn’t think possible decades ago. And people are still finding new foods. Food scientists are a thing. While there are bad actors out there sometimes if its really cool and really good, you can have a new product good for the public and profitable.

                Like the other poster said, I’m no scientist by any means. Its not out of the question for our society to have artificial sweeteners that aren’t bad for us. There’s many out there. Maybe some are bad, maybe some okay for our health.

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        i drink chemical called water. i add a bunch of chemicals clumped up in bean form, then roast those beans, and grind them up sometimes and call it coffee. I sprinkle in a chemical, sucrose, we call sugar. It’s all chemicals. I love chemicals. You love chemicals. We are all chemicals. You know why? Because you are made of dna. Guess what DNA is made of? That’s right, chemicals baby. DNA needs more chemicals to make more copies of itself. Without more chemicals, it would have to break the laws of thermodynamics to replicate itself. More chemicals are needed.

        every time you think “they’re feeding us chemicals” as opposed to what? use synthetic or naturally occurring as a distinction or something. I am partial to lab juice.

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        Injecting chemicals just so you can have sweet things power your muscle performance without buildup of acetone doesn’t seem insane to you?

        Sugar is a chemical, you dumb fuck.