This is actually awesome to see. Sadly the main thing holding Linux back is still just momentum. And for a lot of people MS word. Even if the free suites are pretty good nowadays.
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Linux is a moving target
Could you clarify what you mean with this?
Not the person you’re replying to, but Linux has long had a policy of “F backwards compatibility” in the userspace. Try running a 10 year old binary on the current version of a distro. Try a 5 year old binary. Chances are, it’s not going to work, or you’re going to go through dependency hell trying to get the correct library versions for that old binary.
But notice how Windows 11 can run a Windows XP app.
That’s the problem. Most users aren’t going to want to compile from source, assuming the software they’re trying to use is even open source. Hell, nvidia users constantly have driver issues because the binary blobs must be updated to continue working after kernel updates. And that’s not to mention all the competing package managers and distro quirks with library versions and naming.
You can run 16 bit Windows 3.0 apps on Windows 10 on compatible hardware. Can I run any Linux application compiled 20+ years ago on any modern distro without any fuckery? No. I can’t even run apps compiled for the latest Arch on the latest Ubuntu, lol. Software development for Linux is a total nightmare.
This is true, but kind of exaggerated. I can’t run some windows 7 apps on Windows 10. I have been able to run some backalley Linux software from an html 1.0 site designed in the 90’s no problem.
On both platforms backwards compatibility is a little hit or miss, but yeah Linux is worse.
Yes, some apps might not run. Yet some Win16 do actually run on Windows 10.
Don’t forget accessibility. Vision, motor, etc. sorry but the state of most of that is not so good right now.
The main thing holding linux back is a lack of federal contracts.
Until schools are issuing Linux machines to staff and students. Until military outposts are run on Linux servers. Until your average federal employee is being issued a Linux machine, Linux will always be 3rd place.
Schools are handing out Linux to students…just not GNU/Linux; a lot of schools opt for Chrome OS which uses the Linux kernel.
Linux is already the market leader in every computing segment except desktops (even mobile when you factor in Android.)
And why are federal contracts being issues out for Linux for general users? Because of lack of Ms office
No it’s because of lobbying. Other countries use LibreOffice.
I mean, LibreOffice is usable, but if I could pay for a linux license of Word or Excel, I would pay for it. The UX is just so much better with feature search/animations/plugin support/etc.
Almost like Libre Office isn’t free!
But yeah, u right
I figured they just meant that people in government jobs don’t like change.
No MS office, no sale!
Honestly Apple sucks for not providing proper support for video games. People buy 3k usd laptops and can’t run videos games on it because of lacking software. I don’t understand how anyone with get invested with their VR when the hardware will be held hostage to whatever the overlords find it fit for.
Apple has absolutely cornered the mobile market, so that’s probably why they don’t seem to be in any hurry to seriously support the PC gaming space.
They tend to focus hard on niches they can overcome, and PC/console gaming is a little too established for them to stick their toes in. They tried with the Pippin and the pre-Halo era of gaming, but it didn’t work out for them.
If the Apple headset takes off, they may start pushing harder for VR game support, but who knows?
Apple has absolutely cornered the mobile market
Is this even true? I thought more people used Android phones?
Perhaps you mean in the US, I hear things are different there.
Even in the US it’s not “cornered,” it’s 53% iOS, 45% Android and 1% other.
It’s more useful to look at sales dollars in this context. Apple absolutely dominates in most desirable markets at its chosen price bracket.
Apple might be getting all the profit, but I really wouldn’t compare iOS gamers to Steam gamers. Feels like vastly different use cases for the types of games people buy (unless there’s people out there playing Candy Crush on a deck, which…. Why??)
Apple has absolutely cornered the mobile market
Can we finally get a proper linux alternative to ios and android? I was researching on linux mobile last week and from what I’ve found it’s infinite times harder to get it to work than a linux pc. I just want a cheap, basic foss phone as a daily driver.
Likewise google has cornered the android market by closely controlling how Google services like the playstore are allowed to be used.
Which has unfortunately led to android requiring the stupid Google feed page on the left, overall lack of performance increases, and stagnated development of new features as many OEMs have dropped out.
I wish linus would stop referring to android as Linux. It has become a blatant rip of FOSS to further google’s interests and is an insult to android’s own history considering just how much more advanced it was than iOS back when it became mainstream.
Not to mention it still runs on ART which is basically just the mobile version of JVM which is still Java which runs like garbage compared to modern standards.
It’s stupid seeing Java wrappers for basic things included with most Linux installs like rsync or ssh.
I would pay serious cash money to see a Linux mobile OS developed but I just don’t see it happening anytime soon. Ubuntu is playing with it, but it’s still very limited and the UI is static AFAIK so you can’t easily change it without recompiling.
I bought my Macbook for working not for playing. Don’t think anyone who buys a macbook cares that much that they can’t play on it (which I am pretty sure is not true but I don’t care to check how many of my steam games runs on it)
also if you can drop 3+k on a macbook what is dropping another 500 on a PS5?
I agree with you that it’s great for work. I got a MacBook with Apple silicon for $2.5k and it’s been great. The games isn’t that big a deal because A) i have a desktop computer with Linux and can run 98% of games just fine and B) with parallels you can run a lot of Windows games on Mac. Darkest Dungeon for example I play through that
My main complaint is I can’t install Linux on the laptop yet. I know Asahi Linux is working on it but it’s not quite there. It’d be like putting an old engine in a sports car. So I’m stuck with MacOS for now. Not ideal but better than Windows.
Having said all that, a PS5 is not a proper replacement for a PC. Most of the games I play are all strategy games.
why do you want to install linux on a macbook?
MacOS is kind of annoying. Linux gives you a lot more control over the system and I sort of like to micromanage the OS. Still, there are workarounds for a lot of stuff. For example I found a tiling window manager for MacOS.
Ultimately still much better than Windows. MacOS and Linux are actually very similar. There’s brew, a package manager. I have a nice terminal with fish shell. I copied over my neovim config & plug-ins. On the terminal it’s hard to tell most of the time whether you’re using MacOS or Linux.
To have a fully functional OS?
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That’s not the point. It’s a computer that is artificially limited because you’re not the owner of it.
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Lol being so aggressive and defensive doesn’t help your case. Get some help dude, bye 👋
They provide lots of support for video games. Graphics support, controller support, everything you’d need
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Apple has never taken gaming seriously. Their new M chips are not going to hang with dedicated graphics cards in a gaming pc, but they are also not a slouch. Many games will run well. And Nintendo proves you can make fun games on modest hardware. Imagine if the had spent the $1-2 to include a game controller with every AppleTV. They could of built an ecosystem. They need a VP level person to push gaming.
Sure you can, but you must have quite an audience for devs and publishers to care enough to make and optimize games for your platform. Apple does not have it on Mac side as they are too pricey in terms of what they offer performance wise in case of games.
You will get a Windows laptop with much better performance for less money and most gamers (those interested in AAA games at least) usually care about the price, only a niche buys those Alienwares for 10k (and they on the other hand want the best of the best, which Apple also does not offer as their GPUs are at best around 3060/3070 level).
I don’t see Apple changing the price structure anytime soon, so I don’t see their market share changing. With current pricing they are too expensive for an average gamer and are not at the top of performance charts for a rich gamer.
Honestly, with the success of the steam deck, I would’ve thought this would’ve happened quicker
I think people underestimate just how many windows users are on Steam. Even if the Deck sold 5x more than they expected it still wouldn’t make a huge dent in the number of windows users.
Hopefully over time that changes though.
TIL that you could game on a Mac
So does this mean there are 12 Linux users to Mac’s just 10? Lol
That’s what it feels like, though I’m sure there were at least a few dozen.
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