Generally left wing is ‘making things better for people would be nice’
And is mostly bitterly divided between ‘cool, so let’s get started!’ And 'we must form a committee and personality cult to do capitalist accellerationism, only then can we murder everyone in the first group and then do the thing’ with some absolutely batshit jewels of ideology mixed in.
And the commie blocks are really in the center of that venn diagram. The party that made them was soaked in leftist blood, but the reason they look like that is because building them fast meant people got homes faster, so they were less concerned with giving each one a unique style.
Yep. They did a lot of bullshit and I’d argue they were profoundly reactionary, but the Bolsheviks were still minimum viable communist, and did a lot of communism when it wasn’t purge time.
Which sounds and was pointlessly awful, but I have spent a lot of time with people on the streets, and I think that’s still less terror, less pointless death and suffering.
And is mostly bitterly divided between ‘cool, so let’s get started!’ And 'we must form a committee and personality cult to do capitalist accellerationism
Who are those “cool, let’s get started” leftists, and what housing did they build? Just so I can compare their housing to that of the “personality cult capitalist accelerationists”.
Dunno, not my department. Like I said, at least a few that I’ve personally seen, but they also don’t try to kill other leftists for no fucking reason. So it’s probably easier.
Ah, I see, there are no real examples of “cool, let’s get started” leftists building millions of housing units, so you’re comparing an actually existing state having to deal with capitalist and fascist subversion in a world dominated by capitalism, with idealistic nonexisting societies. That’s your problem right there. You’re welcome!
I’d gladly go to a Soviet Union if it existed, unfortunately it didn’t survive the capitalist subversion attempts I explicitly mentioned.
No need to get angry about confronting the reality that you don’t have actually existing historical leftist figures in power that you can praise. If Rosa Luxembourg had gotten to power and hadn’t been murdered by Nazis and Social Democrats, you’d hate her too.
Generally left wing is ‘making things better for people would be nice’
And is mostly bitterly divided between ‘cool, so let’s get started!’ And 'we must form a committee and personality cult to do capitalist accellerationism, only then can we murder everyone in the first group and then do the thing’ with some absolutely batshit jewels of ideology mixed in.
And the commie blocks are really in the center of that venn diagram. The party that made them was soaked in leftist blood, but the reason they look like that is because building them fast meant people got homes faster, so they were less concerned with giving each one a unique style.
Yep. They did a lot of bullshit and I’d argue they were profoundly reactionary, but the Bolsheviks were still minimum viable communist, and did a lot of communism when it wasn’t purge time.
Which sounds and was pointlessly awful, but I have spent a lot of time with people on the streets, and I think that’s still less terror, less pointless death and suffering.
Who are those “cool, let’s get started” leftists, and what housing did they build? Just so I can compare their housing to that of the “personality cult capitalist accelerationists”.
We’re around. And I personally have-though admittedly not much; I’m not one for manual labor.
So “we’re around-type” leftists have built how many homes exactly?
Dunno, not my department. Like I said, at least a few that I’ve personally seen, but they also don’t try to kill other leftists for no fucking reason. So it’s probably easier.
Ah, I see, there are no real examples of “cool, let’s get started” leftists building millions of housing units, so you’re comparing an actually existing state having to deal with capitalist and fascist subversion in a world dominated by capitalism, with idealistic nonexisting societies. That’s your problem right there. You’re welcome!
‘Having to deal with capitalism’ there it is. Last time I credit you murderhobo shitsticks with anything.
Go back to the soviet Union.
I’d gladly go to a Soviet Union if it existed, unfortunately it didn’t survive the capitalist subversion attempts I explicitly mentioned.
No need to get angry about confronting the reality that you don’t have actually existing historical leftist figures in power that you can praise. If Rosa Luxembourg had gotten to power and hadn’t been murdered by Nazis and Social Democrats, you’d hate her too.
Oh shit!