RAM represented about 15 to 18 percent of PC costs last quarter, HP said.
    • qupada@fedia.io
      26·
      2 months ago

      35% is the kind of numbers I used to have on servers at work, which often feature >2TB of RAM.

      (another similar percentage being the CPUs, 128 cores per socket doesn’t come cheap)

      Seeing those numbers for desktop hardware, “holy fuck” is about right.

      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        For data center shit, it’s probably up in the 70-80% range (unless you’re also running shitloads of H100s or A100s or whatever top of the line is these days)

  • Damage@feddit.itEnglish
    35·
    2 months ago

    PC manufacturers should grow some balls and tell RAM suppliers to lower the price or lose their business forever.

    • TacoSocks@infosec.pubEnglish
      33·
      2 months ago

      The RAM suppliers would probably be thrilled to end those consumer contracts, they could allocate more to high paying AI.

      • Damage@feddit.itEnglish
        14·
        2 months ago

        There’s no guarantee that AI companies will need this amount of product indefinitely, while PC manufactures will always need RAM. Alienating them would be commercially foolish.

        • hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.worldEnglish
          14·
          2 months ago

          Foolish in the long term, but quite effective in the short term.

          I don’t disagree, but it seems their priorities are not on long term stability.

          • Damage@feddit.itEnglish
            3·
            2 months ago

            They do this because everyone else allows them to. I think computer and device manufacturers have more leverage than RAM manufacturers if they join together. Yet they don’t, because today’s management class is vastly incompetent.

        • droans@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 months ago

          That’s exactly why they can alienate them. The PC manufacturers don’t really have many vendors to choose from.

          • Damage@feddit.itEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            For now. Would you risk a long-standing relationship with your most important customers for a temporary boost in income?

            • droans@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              2 months ago

              Wouldn’t be the first time. They got caught in a huge price-fixing scandal just about a decade back and nothing changed.

              And again, where are the customers going to go? There’s only so much capacity and no one’s building new plants.

  • adarza@lemmy.caEnglish
    26·
    2 months ago

    My base starting point parts list (full build with 9800x3d, 64GB/4TB, 9700xt) was 2000usd about five months ago when it was last used to base a build on.

    It’s currently ‘down’ to about 3400 after peaking last week at over 3500. The excess is nearly entirely from RAM and SSD prices.

  • Xorg_Broke_Again@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    14·
    2 months ago

    Hopefully, as a side effect of the current situation, software developers will be a bit more mindful of ram consumption. The “just buy more RAM bro” argument isn’t really working nowadays.