A WSJ investigation tracked the U.S. citizens caught in the crosshairs of an aggressive government campaign to detain and demonize dissenters
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Now? This isn’t new information if you’ve been paying attention. It’s been this way for quite a while. They don’t care who gets caught in their sweeps. Illegals, legals, natural born citizens. Fucking guilty until proven innocent. The exact opposite of what our justice system is supposed to stand for.
Oh, and you don’t get a chance to prove your innocence. It’s purely just ICE points a finger at you and you go to a gulag. Or worse. Ask Alex Pretty or Renee Good or Ruben Ray Martinez. Your citizenship doesn’t matter. Your skin color doesn’t really matter.
you don’t get a chance to prove your innocenc
The law doesn’t require you to prove your innocence. It’s up to the prosecution to prove otherwise. Any system that operates otherwise does so in violation of the constitution.
And?
The whole reason that habeus is the first requirement of the law is without a right to trial, what the law says doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter if ICE has no right to jail you if nobody is stopping them.
For US citizens, that’s not so true. People do seem to be getting no-bills from grand juries and acquitted at trial.
The problem will be getting a trial. Theres been several stories of people getting deported hours after being whisked away because ICE didnt want a judge to step in
Always been a risk with ICE and the Border Patrol. About 1% of deportations have long been of US citizens. You need to get a friend to bring your proof of citizenship and try repeatedly to come home if that happens. A lawyer helps too.
About 1% of deportations have long been of US citizens
Cool, and what % have been legal permanent residents or green card holders?
What % have no criminal record (this one I can answer: 98%)
No, ICE needs to follow the fucking law.
Having your buddies ready to drop off ‘papers please’ documents is not fucking American.
I’m glad I’m not the first one alarmed by the ‘now’ part. We’re borderline, if not completely in Historic Pre-WW2 Nazi playbook, and have been for the past several years.
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
– Martin Niemöller
Actually first they came for the LGBTQ+ people,
but Martin did not speak out
Because as a conservative catholic priest,
he agreed with it.
-History, actually. We CANNOT afford to leave Anyone behind like this.
EDIT: okay, he was Lutheran. And Both the LGBTQ+ and Communist hate were slow-simmering among the German Nazis, breaking out in state-sanctioned violence almost concurrently.
Its fascinating to see just how much the history parallels what we have today.
That this poem is easily available makes it a great tool. But that it so easily glosses over others that the Nazis targeted as being “un-German” is not something we can accept.
Pretty much, “Never again” means “never again to anyone, ever”
Martin Niemoller, famously a prominent Lutheran pastor, was actually not a Catholic priest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Niemöller
I agree with your sentiment, but his piece is timeless and too important to history to misrepresent.
EDIT: it’s also my understanding (not a historian though) that communists were the first targets. Political opponents when the nazis first achieved power because they were not strong. The moved on to ideological targets after they had established power.
Your wikipedia link shows this priest excited for Hitler’s rise, even voting for Hitler in 1933, after the burning of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_für_Sexualwissenschaft Instititute for Sexual Science.
While this poem is a useful tool, we cannot accept it being used by even the author to obscure the deaths of those he agreed with the Nazis about.
The Nazis had a slow simmer of hate for both Communists and the LGBTQ+ community. Each received state sanctioned violence at the hands of Nazis simultaneously, both being labelled as “un-German”
If you’ll pardon the inflammatory language, I’m going to continue communicating the same thought. That priest was a product of his time and place, and fully teaching his poem demands passing on critique of that basis.
While this poem is a useful tool, we cannot accept it being used by even the author to obscure the deaths of those he agreed with the Nazis about.
That priest was a product of his time and place, and fully teaching his poem demands passing on critique of that basis.
Wholly agree with you here in the goal, sentiment, and calling out he’s a product of his time. Once again, here’s a conservative that only cared about something once it affected him. At least he left his words to the ages in hopes others would learn from them instead.
Wondered why the attack on trans people was omitted from the poem.
A little lacking in self-awareness, that guy.
The Nazis and Freikorps went for the commies first though. They were founded like all fascists as an explicitly anti-Marxist group.
Protesters, observers and passersby taken into custody by federal agents were declared terrorists and attackers in hundreds of social-media posts by U.S. officials and departments since the start of the immigration sweeps in cities. This includes Minneapolis, where two citizens were excoriated by officials after they were killed by federal agents in January.
If you’re surprised, you haven’t been paying attention
Unfortunately a lot of people haven’t been paying attention.
So then it’s not an “immigration crackdown”
its THE crackdown
Don’t you mean “it’s ÞE crackdown”
i got downvoted for þorn so i dont use it as much here 🥀
liſen here u little ſhit
The Wall Street Journa?!? Trump managed to lose the Wall Street Journal?
Not really. Their editorial board and page are 100% on board with him.
However, the WSJ still does actual reporting, and it’s usually fairly good/accurate. Just don’t read the editorials, ever.
I love how scrolling has no visible effect for quite some time. I thought it was broken. These things are cute, but have no place in journalism.
Yeah, that was unpleasant.
We always where. If you live here you’re an american. Sorry if that’s insulting to some of you who’ve moved here lol.
I feel like the beginning was a little too complicated and didnt have the best UX but I really loved the more multimedia way of presenting all the details together, with audio, video, textual information, and data visualization all brought together
Just now?
