• takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      At the same time we should not give up diplomatic options. We should send Iran the entire cabinet as a gesture of good will.

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            no more war but we can send ice to your region to live permanently. you can be nice to them while they terrorize and kill your people.

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            While a great sentiment, it’s unbelievably unrealistic. There will always be things people will die for. Likewise, there will always be things people will kill for.

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              Yankees bombing schoolchildren is not just “a fact of life” good lord. Your army is the single most murderous force in the last 100 years or so. Death to Amerikkka.

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                It doesn’t matter what country we’re talking about. People on a fundamental level will never stop killing eachother. Downvote me all you like. It will never stop. We will always find some reason to kill other people. Whether they’re poor, or a different color than us, or because your government tells you they’re a threat to you, or whether they’re building bombs to use on you, or they’re raping and pillaging your home. You act like there’s some magic light switch you can just flip and turn off all the violence. It must be nice to live in fairytale land. You yourself are a contradiction to yourself “oh stop all murder! Except amerikkka! Kill all Americans!”

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                  lmao your yankee propaganda has you convinced that everyone is just as murderous as your stromtroops, they’re just faster and better equipped, but I can assure you that neither is true. You’re so deep in your propaganda that you can’t separate a population from it’s government either. Do you realise that your life isn’t magically tethered to the yankee government and people won’t just flop to the ground all over your occupied areas as soon as the white house is bombed?

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                    It’s just naive to think people will ever stop killing eachother. You seem to think America is the root of all evil, which is great I don’t think much of us either. But let’s speak facts, long before America was ever even a thought in our forefathers sperm, Genghis Khan was out there killing 40 million people. Or maybe the Timurid Conquests, where 20 million were killed, they also built skull pyramids as a terror tactic. How about the Spanish conquests where over 50 million indigenous people were killed? I suppose they were all super peaceful too until big bad America came along and started killing everyone. Grow up.

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                Same kinda shit has been happening since the Ubaid period 10,000 BC so it kind of is a fact of life.

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              Me: Hey, stop that!

              Guy who broke into my house: What a great sentiment, but it’s unbelievably unrealistic throws my stuff into a giant bag there will always be things people will want to steal.

              When criticism is levied against the empire, it gets framed as “stopping all violence forever.” The same framing is not used when it comes to criticism of enemies of the empire. Nobody talks about Iran in terms of “We can’t do anything about them because violence will always exists.” Why? Because they framed as being somehow uniquely beligerant, while the empire is framed as being “the normal amount” of beligerant - even though the empire is much more violent, beligerant, and aggressive than Iran or any other country.

              You can want the most murderous regime on the planet to stop attacking countries without the expectation that all violence will end forever.

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              We should start getting rid of the people who actively want that. Dangerous line of thinking i guess, but nobody can tell me that the wold wouldnt be net positive for removing trump, putin, xi, weidel, etc.

              Edit: counts for everyone next in line as well so long as they try to keep the idiology/insanity up