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    Except that for all of her anti-trans stuff, she never advocated for killing trans people or anything of the sort. Or did I miss something?

    EDIT: Holy shit, so many downvotes for an honest and open question? I fully realize that what she advocates for is harmful (which was what I alluded to in my original question), but there’s still quite a difference between that and advocating for the murder of every trans person, jfc.

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      If you take healthcare away from trans people, suicide numbers go up. And she wants to take healthcare away from trans people and shove us back in the closet. She’s chosen to attack kids, the most vulnerable of us. I believe she’s already taken lives through her lobbying.

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          So, a common metric people bring up in discussions of trans people that make their way into politics is ‘trans suicide rates’. Right-wingers tend to mention it in reference to “We shouldn’t let anyone be trans, because trans people commit suicide often,” and left-wingers tend to argue “Trans suicide is so high because they get degraded by society, and aren’t allowed to express themselves.”

          Edit: As for why it gets mentioned, transgenders overall commit suicide far more often than the average population.

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            so different people have different “explanations” for the suicide rates. has there been any unbiased evidence to explain it?

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                thanks, i’m reading this link and looking for data about suicide rates. this report is talking about a collection of self-reported data about suicidal thoughts, which many people can have and fortunately not go through with it.

                I also see a statistically significant correlation, and i’m still looking for a reliable causation and data on suicide rates. how do we know if the lack of gender affirming care directly leads to increased suicides in a systemic pattern? perhaps the same people who cannot access it also are likely to have other things in life that could cause terrible suicidal thoughts or actions. i’m wondering how we can rule this out.

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      This is not that question though.

      The question of separation of art and artist is about if you should judge the art based on the artist. That is not required or even the criticism.

      In fact, most people don’t even say that HP is bad because of jk rolling. They say, it is bad to pay for HP products because jk rolling gets money from it.

      I am fairly certain that people would be fine with someone pirating HP movies and watching them. Publicly screening is a different story.

      https://vger.to/sopuli.xyz/comment/22643123 evidence for my claim.

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      Yes, but you can’t separate your money you spend on their products from them. That’s why pirating is the morally correct thing to do in that situation.

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      “Can one separate art from artist?”

      We need to stop having that conversation because That stopped being the question!

      That WAS the question in the beginning when we as a society were really trying out a new form of advocacy where millions of people could have a parasocial relationship with an author in real time and learned that their “friend” was being a jerk but that is far from the question now.

      JKR used her fantastic wealth to fund the lawyers that made the landmark decision to change the legal definitions of woman and render UK Gender recognition certificates moot. This decision has legitimately caused a surge in workplaces siding with transphobic employees, attacks on trans and cis people in bath and changing rooms, disqualified trans women (a population who is known to have high rates of domestic abuse, rape and human trafficking), from shelters and medical/mental services they desperately need.

      And she lit a cigar and patted herself on the back for a good use of 700,000 pounds stirling.

      There are other groups and causes she funds and supports through attention capture through her activism and bank account. This isn’t separating art from artist - it is cutting off revenue streams to a hateful popular activist campaigning to make vulnerable people die because she finds them intellectually inconvenient.

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        I always get nervous when someone else tells me I am asking the wrong question. That is usually closely followed by “You don’t understand”.

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    according to this comic, does it make it okay if you pirate everything so that there’s no financial transaction involved?

    edit i guess i should state: i dont fuck with harry potter stuff. it was just something i thought of. i’m more of a wizards in space kinda guy (sci fi lol)

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      At that point you’re someone standing next to the dude in the “I ❤️ HP” shirt. Supporting a fandom that is owned by bigots is still not great. At the end of the day you’re perpetuating it’s existence.

      It’s not nearly as bad, but it’s not good.

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      It’s kind of muddy and depends on your personal beliefs on how much you think interacting with a terrible person through uncritical devouring of their works is likely to taint your own worldview. Various factors include how many people were involved, did they have the views at the time, are you capable of reading the text in a manner where you seperate yourself a bit from it, etc.

      I don’t think it’s worth the risk personally, but I tend to view art as a communication from one person to another, rather than a commodity or a consumable. I don’t particularly go out of my way to communicate with terfs who are immune to critical thinking. Also if we get down to brass tacks, it’s not that good of a series.

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      The only risk you have is that someone will see you playing a Harry potter game, or reading a book, and they will then go and buy it. If you pirate it just keep it relatively private if you really want to make sure jk Rowling doesnt benefit in any way.

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        man, somewhere around here i have hardback copies of the prequel trilogy his son wrote from frank herbert’s notes. i don’t remember if they’re any good but that was my introduction to dune back in high school.

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    is this about the NEW movie?, everyone said the new “lookalikes” of the og cast look like AI generated, and JKR have been criticized for trying to white wash the og cast because they dont like jkr for her transphobia…

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      I just scrubbed through the trailer and it truly looks AI generated. Like they just remade the movie with different actors instead of re-imagining it to make something unique.

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      I’ve never understood the love for their food. It’s not that good. I wouldn’t eat there even if they weren’t owned shitty people.

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        In 1997 fast food chicken sandwiches were garbage, and Chik Fil A was amazing in comparison. By the late 2000s there was plenty of good fast food chicken and CFA was already mid. Today we live in the chicken sandwich golden era and CFA is hot trash.

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    I was looking for books to read for one of my students to read. (He loved the classroom edition for The Martian.) The book store had all of Harry Potter on the bottom shelf.

    I don’t know if its just not selling well, or the store owners are trying to promote not buying it. I hope its the latter.

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      I hope it’s the former. That author is reinvesting that money in lawyers, political campaigning and funneling investment into groups that actively are pursuing Supreme Court cases to errode trans rights. Kinda more important than a bookshop owner being a total bro is that she’s not getting more money to do that.

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    As someone who lives under the rock. I heard her opinion on trans but made me wonder what was with the trans character in Hogwarts Legacy? Did the company placed the character to troll her or something?

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      The lead designer was a neo Nazi youtuber. The trans character was probably studio mandated diversity for PR reasons, or a rebel faction of actual progressives on the dev team.

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    I’m not going to condemn anyone who likes Harry Potter. I just want it to be part of the equation. For me, the new show would be something I might check out. But with her directly profiting, I’m just not wasting my time on it.