• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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    7 months ago

    I hate that guy, but hate cannot make Me act against My own interests. Well it can a little bit, especially in fast moving situations. But it can’t do it with big decisions like My vote.

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      Yea, but from all his talks and bills I don’t trust him to not be against queer people. So in a way they both will be against my own interests.

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        He will be more against queer people than whoever the Republicans put forth? Really?

        If candidate A wants you to hide your queerness and use the wrong bathroom, and candidate B wants to force you to be straight or go to jail or a conversion camp, are you really going to throw your hands up in the air and say it’s not worth voting?

        Voting for someone does not mean you support everything they stand for. It just means you think they are the best option of what has been laid before you.

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          Voting for someone does not mean you support everything they stand for.

          I’ve seen what centrists do when they don’t get their very first choice. They campaigned against Mamdani and formed a PAC to get McCain elected.

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        “Option A is really, really bad for me. But I’m not sure if option B wouldn’t be somewhat bad, too. So I will just watch and let option A happen.”

        — You, and millions of other propaganda victims helping fascists win

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        My actions and his actions are two very different things. If he primaries, I may tell people to vote for him against the R, having told people to vote against him in the primaries. In both cases I would be acting in alignment with My interests, for they are two very different choices. I will hope for the best and plan for the worst.

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        Your courage to do anything will help in the long run.

        Please at least consider the option that helps some others.

        • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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          It’s not even that. EVERYONE is harmed by fascists. Or, if you’d like to rephrase it this way: EVERYONE is harmed much more by fascists. Either way, in the general, vote blue. In the primaries, vote for the best option. And if you can run for office, run for office.

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          Voting is how fascists win.

          This won’t be fixed by voting. It never could have been and it never will be.

              • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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                Well, I don’t know here, let’s fucking use a brain cell or two.

                Arguably, sure, facists win because people vote for them.

                And do you know how facists lose? PEOPLE VOTE FOR NOT-FASCISTS.

                So what you said was true and also the most useless fucking worthless statement I’ve read all week.

                After all, the entire fucking point here is STOP VOTING FOR FASCISTS.

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                  And do you know how facists lose? PEOPLE VOTE FOR NOT-FASCISTS.

                  Historically speaking, when have fascists ever been voted out of power?

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      7 months ago

      I hate that guy, but hate cannot make Me act against My own interests

      If only everyone on Lemmy were this intelligent lol