If part of the bible or torah falls within the legal definitions of hate speech, then it is hate speech. You can’t hide behind the idea that because it is a holy book it should be exempt from any scrutiny.
I was raised Christian and poured 1000% of my undiagnosed autism into studying the bible. The bible doesn’t have hate speech. It’s these christo-fascist idiots that have hate in their hearts.
Jesus was crystal fucking clear that none of those ancient Jewish laws were valid going forward. We are to love everyone as ourselves.
The hate speech is what people say before and after they cite the bible. Case and point; the parts of the bible that are ‘anti-gay’ are actually deliberate mistranslations.
You literally have to change / misrepresent the bible for it to support hate.
So yea this objection by conservatives is baseless.
Interesting twist. So if the Liberals CHANGE the definition of ‘hate’ then yes, everything that offends anyone can be labelled hate speech. If you don’t see the danger of that, I don’t know what to tell you.
I note that a school trustee in BC can be fined $750,000 because he offended some ANONYMOUS LGBT teachers apparently and yet we have had over 33 church razed to the ground from arson in Canada over the last few years and no one has been arrested and no one even charged that Im aware of. Hmm… you say works that ‘take away my dignity’ thats HATE, man. But you burn down my place of worship? Well, that’s kinda justifiable isn’t it? I mean, that’s not HATE, right? Sorta like, more of a protest. Kinda. Well maybe just a tinge of hate, but hey, stuff happens, right?
ps. You want to judge the holy books with the law? Where do you think the law comes from? In Canada and Britain in particular its based on Judeo-Christian principles taken from those holy books. The current gov has come full circle to say they are now ABOVE those values. They’re not.
They are, none of the power structures in capitalism, the state and capital, gives a shit about judeo-christian values. And in every developed country the number of actively religious people keeps dropping, why should these books written by goat herders 2000 years ago be above modern laws? You know these books say shit like that gay people should be stoned to death and that slavery should be allowed to exist.
The Bible doesnt say anything about stoning gay people to death. My understanding that the Koran does and therein lies a problem with accepting all religious texts as equal. I dont believe they are, but this is Canada and we definitely would have a problem if the gov tried to rule that one text is acceptable and the other is not.
Leviticus 20:13: “If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads”.
Doesn’t mention stoning, but it does say gay people should be put to death.
You say that you’ve studied the Bible so you should know that the verses about homosexuality are also in the New Testament so not the ‘ancient Jewish laws’ If you want I can give you chapter and verse but its a pretty easy google search.
How bout instead of arguing with me you go research it yourself? I literally could not care less about convincing you of anything. Not my decision whose hearts God hardens.
Im not sure who offended you sir, but it wasn’t me. And my heart is not hardened, Im on here because I enjoy discussing relevant topics with others of differing views. Have a good one.
Either way you’re not a christian or any other religion. Your a bigot trying to misrepresent the bible to justify your narrow ignorance based perspective.
The conservative objects are baseless because there is no hate speech in the Bible. Just christo-fasists thumping bibles to the beat of their own hateful hearts.
Worry not about the courts of men. God will judge you according to your heart.
So you can make that judgment just because you can make that judgment, with absolutely no proof? Ok, cant argue with that logic. Then I can be anything you decide. Seems fair /s
If part of the bible or torah falls within the legal definitions of hate speech, then it is hate speech. You can’t hide behind the idea that because it is a holy book it should be exempt from any scrutiny.
I was raised Christian and poured 1000% of my undiagnosed autism into studying the bible. The bible doesn’t have hate speech. It’s these christo-fascist idiots that have hate in their hearts.
Jesus was crystal fucking clear that none of those ancient Jewish laws were valid going forward. We are to love everyone as ourselves.
The hate speech is what people say before and after they cite the bible. Case and point; the parts of the bible that are ‘anti-gay’ are actually deliberate mistranslations.
You literally have to change / misrepresent the bible for it to support hate.
So yea this objection by conservatives is baseless.
Interesting twist. So if the Liberals CHANGE the definition of ‘hate’ then yes, everything that offends anyone can be labelled hate speech. If you don’t see the danger of that, I don’t know what to tell you.
I note that a school trustee in BC can be fined $750,000 because he offended some ANONYMOUS LGBT teachers apparently and yet we have had over 33 church razed to the ground from arson in Canada over the last few years and no one has been arrested and no one even charged that Im aware of. Hmm… you say works that ‘take away my dignity’ thats HATE, man. But you burn down my place of worship? Well, that’s kinda justifiable isn’t it? I mean, that’s not HATE, right? Sorta like, more of a protest. Kinda. Well maybe just a tinge of hate, but hey, stuff happens, right?
ps. You want to judge the holy books with the law? Where do you think the law comes from? In Canada and Britain in particular its based on Judeo-Christian principles taken from those holy books. The current gov has come full circle to say they are now ABOVE those values. They’re not.
They are, none of the power structures in capitalism, the state and capital, gives a shit about judeo-christian values. And in every developed country the number of actively religious people keeps dropping, why should these books written by goat herders 2000 years ago be above modern laws? You know these books say shit like that gay people should be stoned to death and that slavery should be allowed to exist.
The Bible doesnt say anything about stoning gay people to death. My understanding that the Koran does and therein lies a problem with accepting all religious texts as equal. I dont believe they are, but this is Canada and we definitely would have a problem if the gov tried to rule that one text is acceptable and the other is not.
Leviticus 20:13: “If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads”.
Doesn’t mention stoning, but it does say gay people should be put to death.
Jesus was pretty crystal clear that the ancient jewish laws were no longer valid.
The bible doesn’t have hate speech. It has christo-fascists misrepresenting it to justify the hate they choose to cultivate within their hearts.
LoveCanada’s argument is completely baseless.
You say that you’ve studied the Bible so you should know that the verses about homosexuality are also in the New Testament so not the ‘ancient Jewish laws’ If you want I can give you chapter and verse but its a pretty easy google search.
Didn’t say that. I said the verses on homosexuality were deliberately mistranslated. You need to work on your reading comprehension.
I must have missed that. Where exactly did you say that the verses were mistranslated?
How bout instead of arguing with me you go research it yourself? I literally could not care less about convincing you of anything. Not my decision whose hearts God hardens.
Im not sure who offended you sir, but it wasn’t me. And my heart is not hardened, Im on here because I enjoy discussing relevant topics with others of differing views. Have a good one.
Either way you’re not a christian or any other religion. Your a bigot trying to misrepresent the bible to justify your narrow ignorance based perspective.
The conservative objects are baseless because there is no hate speech in the Bible. Just christo-fasists thumping bibles to the beat of their own hateful hearts.
Worry not about the courts of men. God will judge you according to your heart.
See my comment above. What did I say that is hateful?
See my other comment. You not saying anything hateful doesn’t preclude your desire to use the bible to justify your hateful beleifs.
There’s simply no way you could see the bible as potential hate speech unless you agree with hateful interperitations of it.
You can say nobody saw you put your hand in the cookie jar but the crumbs are all over your face bud.
So you can make that judgment just because you can make that judgment, with absolutely no proof? Ok, cant argue with that logic. Then I can be anything you decide. Seems fair /s