If you’re arguing and inciting for someone to be put to death on the basis of their sexual orientation (“3 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.”) then yes, that’s hate speech regardless of it being the bible.
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them
To be fair, in studying this issue I have avoided the Old Testament and levitical law because as you know its been superceded by the coming of Jesus and the New Testament so I honestly forgot that verse existed.
The New Testament doesnt advocate death, it does however make clear its position:
Romans 1:26-27 (NIV): “…Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.”
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV): “…Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men [arsenokoitai] nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”
1 Timothy 1:9-10 (NIV): “…The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality [arsenokoitai], or are slave traders, liars, promise breakers…”
I was raised Christian and poured 1000% of my undiagnosed autism into studying the bible. The bible doesn’t have hate speech. It’s these christo-fascist idiots that have hate in their hearts.
Jesus was crystal fucking clear that none of those ancient Jewish laws were valid going forward. We are to love everyone as ourselves.
The hate speech is what people say before and after they cite the bible. Case and point; the parts of the bible that are ‘anti-gay’ are actually deliberate mistranslations.
You literally have to change / misrepresent the bible for it to support hate.
So yea this objection by conservatives is baseless.
If you’re arguing and inciting for someone to be put to death on the basis of their sexual orientation (“3 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.”) then yes, that’s hate speech regardless of it being the bible.
To be fair, in studying this issue I have avoided the Old Testament and levitical law because as you know its been superceded by the coming of Jesus and the New Testament so I honestly forgot that verse existed.
The New Testament doesnt advocate death, it does however make clear its position:
Romans 1:26-27 (NIV): “…Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV): “…Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men [arsenokoitai] nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Timothy 1:9-10 (NIV): “…The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality [arsenokoitai], or are slave traders, liars, promise breakers…”
I was raised Christian and poured 1000% of my undiagnosed autism into studying the bible. The bible doesn’t have hate speech. It’s these christo-fascist idiots that have hate in their hearts.
Jesus was crystal fucking clear that none of those ancient Jewish laws were valid going forward. We are to love everyone as ourselves.
The hate speech is what people say before and after they cite the bible. Case and point; the parts of the bible that are ‘anti-gay’ are actually deliberate mistranslations.
You literally have to change / misrepresent the bible for it to support hate.
So yea this objection by conservatives is baseless.