This is a 50sqm balcony/terrace on the 2nd (3rd American) floor of a rental apartment building. I immediately knew we had to take the apartment, because having a balcony garden was my number 1 wish. In that sense, we definitely got super lucky.

This is year 4 of the garden, and it feels like we’ve reached “routine” with it. In the first year, we lugged about 2.5 cubic meters of soil up there to fill all the pots. From June-October, this space is enough to fill 100% of our (two people) vegetable needs.

Unsurprisingly, this is way too much to water by hand every day, not to mention when we’re not home for some days/weeks. The balcony is also south-facing, and it gets hot in the summer (seriously, I have burnt my feet on the stones before).

Unfortunately, there’s also no water outlet on the terrace itself, and the landlord said “no” to putting one there (which was expected, the way the house/apartment is built is not really suitable for that).

Our solution has been to put two 300l rain tanks on the balcony (atop of load bearing walls). They get filled by a hose from the kitchen tap whenever required. The barrels are connected by a second hose. In the one in the greenhouse, a rain barrel pump sucks water out, into a watering computer and optionally to a hose for manual watering.

From the watering computer, two watering circuits start; originally the plan was to distinguish between plants that constantly needed a bit of water, and ones that preferred a lot of water occasionally (e.g. the citrus plants); in practice, it turned out to be easier to just always water everything a bit. Oh well.

The watering computer itself it pretty dumb / not connected to an app or the like; it just opens the valves every 8 hours for (in the summer) 3 minutes each time. That’s mostly OK. On super hot days, I sometimes start a fourth round of watering in the early afternoon.

The pump is however plugged into a Zigbee-enabled smart socket, which is controlled by an automation via HomeAssistant (so, all-locally, thankfully). The main purpose of this is an automation that disables the pump when there has been a lot of rain in the past 24hrs, or a moderate amount of rain in the past 8 hours. Not that important when we are home, but usually extends the number of days we can be away from home by 2-3 days for a full filling of the tanks.

Finally, here’s some pictures and a video from the past couple of years. I think this year is the first year where no new pots were added, and we needed to buy hardly any new soil (the compost bin has really been worth it in that regard, as well!)

Happy to answer any questions!!

  • saimen@feddit.orgEnglish
    1·
    8 hours ago

    I know it’s probably not about saying money, but how much did you invest and how much do you save each year? Or rather when do you think you break even?

  • evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    1 day ago

    Do you find that you are getting consistent watering out of your drip irrigation in terms of the volume of water used each time?

    I have a mixture of pressure-compensating drippers (which dont seem to actually compensate well or last more than a year or two) and drippers that are like little spigots that can be turned up or down, which is nice for some plants that need more than others.

    The trouble is it takes me a long time to get the flow right in each one, but it does not seem consistent day to day. I’m wondering if it’s just due to the natural variation in water pressure, though that tends to be ±4% throughout the day, and less than 1% if you look at the same time each day when my irrigation runs.

    • smiletolerantlyOPEnglish
      1·
      14 hours ago

      Good question. My drippers are all pressure-compensating, I have no experience with the variable ones (instead just bought 3 different kinds). The past 3 years, I’d say they were pretty consistent, but I have noticed this year that they seem to differ by quite a bit in how much they drip. My explanation was that since we have really hard water here, they might be starting to calcify or something.

      Sorry to hear about the variable ones though. That sounds really frustrating :(

      Maybe we should both invest in a water counter thingy? 😄

    • smiletolerantlyOPEnglish
      2·
      1 day ago

      Ja aber wohin damit 😥 Hätte schon gern eins, aber darf den Pflanzen keine Sonne wegnehmen. Hab schon überlegt da wie eine Art Markise zwei angewinkelt über’s Fenster zu hängen…

  • saimen@feddit.orgEnglish
    4·
    1 day ago

    Awesome! I somehow immediately thought you are german and then the gardena hoses and the Insektenhotel confirmed it.

    Do you even manage to eat everything yourself of what you harvest?

    Do you have a rain sensor for the disabling automation?

    • smiletolerantlyOPEnglish
      6·
      1 day ago

      Oh nooo, am I that easy to clock as German 😄 Gardena really nice for the price though.

      Do you even manage to eat everything yourself of what you harvest?

      Mostly yes. We’re not throwing anything out, but giving some stuff to neighbours/family if we have too much of something. But esp. for things like peas or paprika, we also freeze a bunch for use throughout the year, pickle some cucumbers, and so on.

      Do you have a rain sensor for the disabling automation?

      No, actually - that was our initial idea as well, but they are not inexpensive, and not necessarily super accurate, from what I’ve read. Instead we’re just using the OpenWeather API. If you’re curious, here’s the HA stuff we wrote for it:

      Automation:

      alias: Deaktiviere Pumpe nach Regen
description: ""
triggers:
  - at: "06:30:00"
    trigger: time
  - at: "14:30:00"
    trigger: time
  - at: "22:30:00"
    trigger: time
conditions: []
actions:
  - if:
      - condition: or
        conditions:
          - condition: numeric_state
            entity_id: sensor.cumulative_rain_8h
            above: 4
          - condition: numeric_state
            entity_id: sensor.cumulative_rain_24h
            above: 10
    then:
      - condition: state
        entity_id: switch.steckdose_wasserpumpe_switch
        state: "on"
      - metadata: {}
        data: {}
        target:
          device_id: <redacted>
        action: switch.turn_off
    else:
      - condition: state
        entity_id: switch.steckdose_wasserpumpe_switch
        state: "off"
      - metadata: {}
        data: {}
        target:
          device_id: <redacted>
        action: switch.turn_on
mode: single

      Custom sensors:

      sensor:
  - platform: statistics
    name: "Cumulative Rain 24h"
    entity_id: sensor.openweathermap_rain
    state_characteristic: sum
    max_age:
      hours: 24
  - platform: statistics
    name: "Cumulative Rain 8h"
    entity_id: sensor.openweathermap_rain
    state_characteristic: sum
    max_age:
      hours: 8

      (These just sum up all values over the last x hours. “We have integration at home!” Unit is watercolumn in millimeters (I think))

  • foxymochakitten@slrpnk.netEnglish
    2·
    1 day ago

    That’s incredible!! The automated rain barrels are especially genius. What do you expect your most prolific harvest to be? Do you have a favorite plant you always do more of?

    • smiletolerantlyOPEnglish
      2·
      14 hours ago

      Haha, thanks, I’d say they’re more of an necessity though 😅

      Most prolific is usually the sweet peppers. There’s 24 plants (3 kinds in total), and they seem to really love getting baked in the sun here. I think they might be the only plants we have that actively like how intensely the stones heat up.

      Favorite plant: we buy a jew Wasabi plant every year, always with the intention of “then we can finally harvest the oldest one!”, but they look so nice and we feel bad for them and never do 😭

      How about yourself?