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- technology@lemmy.world
The aftermath to the recent Microsoft Azure hack by suspected PRC actors.
What is the solution to this? Make sure cloud services are open source so they can be independently vetted? If government and corporate entities chose to use open source solutions, most are presented “as is” with no warranty.
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Why businesses continue to trust Microsoft I’ll never quite understand. The number of breaches Microsoft has had overall the last 5 years is amazing. Compare that to what I believe is the ZERO breaches Google has had in the same time frame. Not that Google is to be trusted, but if anything of magnitude would have happened there it would have certainly leaked by now.
Cloud at this point is very hard to ignore. Internal IT team sizes shrinking, it’s becoming harder running all of those business needs internally. Businesses will learn the hard way when they continue to put their trust in the cloud, especially Microsoft’s. Some facets of IT are just too much work to bother with keep hosting internally. Exchange is a steaming pile of garbage. I managed it for years, so I can see why people cloud their email. Which I’m all for, because email is just a bitch to run in general. But use Gmail or something else. It’s a night and day difference. I’m dreading the day my company decides that Microsoft is the better deal just because Office needs updating. Instead of keeping the status quo, spend the money training employees on alternatives and run as far as you can from Microsoft’s hold.
Microsoft makes a lot of good products but keeping them secure is an after thought.
Why businesses continue to trust Microsoft I’ll never quite understand.
Technological debt and an easy path to hybrid environments.
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I forgot about the build bug. Ghost token I was unaware of. Ok so two? And ghost token required users to have had a allowed the malicious app in question.
Meaningful customers is an opinion. I can list a bunch.
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Funny how on the consumer side, they keep pushing TPMs and other intrusive technologies under the guise of security, and they can’t even keep their shit together on the business end long enough for people to actually believe them.
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I gotta stand up for my boy TPM. I manage a lot of Windows systems, and TPM does a lot of heavy lifting. I’m an open source advocate, but I recognize that without TPM, most users wouldn’t bother with encrypting their device.
And since Microsoft has strongly integrated it in their stack, it significantly reduces the need for regular signins and user focused security. Of course, this does require you to invest in their stack. There’s little to no support for machine level authentication for Linux. But in business, it really does make a practical and useful difference in security.
Oh yeah. Of course old tpm (1.2) that was the only key to the Castle isn’t great in the hand of someone with some know how and alligator clips since it communicated in clear text at the bus level so key extraction was possible. But for most folks security model, who cares. If it was a risk the business handled it with a pass phrase and tpm.
Apple does security prettt well and integrated too. Especially for most that don’t care.
It really is ridiculous at this point. Just a few weeks back they renamed one of their products on the backend (for no good reason) and broke a ton of stuff with no recourse besides “fix it yourself”. Pile on the endless updates and constant vulnerabilities and I don’t see how anyone can willingly choose to build new projects on it. They can’t even ship a usable replacement to win32!
On second thought though, pretty much every recent super-scalable cloud enterprise project of note is not Windows-centric anymore. Docker? Redis? Grafana? Kubes? The list goes on.
Recently I was doing some Azure integration work, with OAuth, Teams and Outlook. At one point I noticed that logging in with a MS account causes my browser to do ~10 redirects between different services while downloading over 30 MB of Javascript and thought “Huh, this looks like decades of technical debt. Either MS devs are waaay smarter than me or this is a pile of garbage”. I guess both could be true.
All their services are like that! Redirects for days. It’s an absolute gong show believe me. It’s way worse than the public knows.
They have no choice but to be smarter than us on account of the pile of garbage they’ve been given.
Or they simply hope, that the pile of garbage is smarter than the attackers.
“This incident demonstrates the evolving challenges of cybersecurity in the face of sophisticated attacks. We continue to work directly with government agencies on this issue, and maintain our commitment to continue sharing information at Microsoft Threat Intelligence blog."
Translation: Fixing bugs cost way to much more money than just leaving them in, so in order to save the profits, we just wait them out. If the shit hits the fan, we can still start looking into the issue and maybe get some PR coverage to distract the public.
But we still happily support government agencies to exploit the barndoor-sized holes in our software for whatever nefarious reasons they have because they pay us for that.
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