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    The fuck you mean “legally allowed to remove them”? You put them up, you’re paying to use them, just take them down and don’t use them!

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      Contractors put them up, a private contract is in place, tampering with the 3rd party equipment could make the city liable. It’s incredibly dumb that someone signed the agreement in the first place, but also every city near me has done so and my own city is adding more constantly. So they have to get lawyers to break the contract and get contractors to come remove the equipment. Sigh.

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      I’m sure they signed some really stupid long-term contract with Flock, which may limit their ability to take them down and/or stop paying for them.

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      Yeah and they also have trackers in them and batteries, so folks have discovered you need to negate these features before doing anything else, even moving to another location.

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        The UK found a good way to deal with automated speed cameras. Hang a used tire over the camera, fill the bottom of it with diesel, toss in a match. Camera gets roasted extra crispy and pretty much everything inside is garbage so the whole thing has to be replaced.

        I wonder if that would work here?

        Jokes aside, it is really disturbing that cities are afraid of this company. Doesn’t say good things.

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          If the pieces can fit through a 1mm mesh screen, you won’t be having any more traceability problems.

          Though I’ve always been partial to a nice big scoop of thermite for that purpose.

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    A neat protest for these cameras would be replicate local officials license plates, place them on vehicles and just drive them all over the place, speeding, running lights and all kinds of crap

    Or just place a dozen license plates on one vehicle …

    or on the back of a truck with an automatic window -> only show all the license plates when in front of a flock camera, hide them again after

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      Unfortunately, license plates are but a small fraction of what these things can capture. Your face, gait, and voice, for example.

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        simple … get a rubber mask of Richard Nixon … buy a few and give them to all the people that are running the same plates that you are mimicking … and don’t forget to give double peace signs every time … because you’re not a crook!

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        You know the ankle weights that meatheads wear while running? Put two on one ankle. That’ll screw their gait algorithm. Face: a ski mask, a bit of paint, or some dangly reflective decorations hanging off the front of a hat. Voice: STFU.

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      These things also identify paint scratches and dents/stickers for when it can’t read the plates. I’m not so sure this would do much to poison the data

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        You flood it with all kinds of info and let them sort it out … give fake plates, funny plates, dumb plates, non plates, funny characters, random characters … if enough people did it all over the place, the system would get flooded with nonsense data that they would all have to sort through. Sure an electronic system could sort right through it in seconds … but it would be humans that would have to verify the computers confident answers (even if they are wrong).

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          Some tires have RFID chips embedded in them with recycling information. But I don’t believe that RFID tags can be read with any reliability from the distance a plate reader operates at. Could the magnetic loop detectors embedded in the street be modified to do it? Maybe.

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            I’m not familiar with the ones you are talking about. The tire pressure sensors are meant to be read at a distance though.

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    Remove the cameras, but the people who put them there are still in place. You think they’re just going to give up on their dream of omniscience?

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    How much are those things worth if you strip out its components (ram) and rare metals (copper, gold)?