that’s gonna be a “nope” from me, dawg.
Easy!
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“Drink verification can.”
Fuck. That. No website is worth that.
Ppl say this with such conviction but what about your bank website? What if it becomes industry standard and you have no other options? Just going to keep all your money in cash?
I have a hard time believing all banks, including local credit unions, will simultaneously adopt this tech. And if they all do, maybe will I have to consider cash after all. But in the meantime, I’ll switch to a banking solution that doesn’t.
Fair enough. But I wasn’t picturing them simultaneously doing it.
Enshittification is a contagious disease that spreads slowly.
Right, so I’ll bank with the ones that aren’t doing this bullshit. If they want my money they won’t do it, simple as.
It starts with them making things much cheaper if you give them your data. Little do Americans know their full data set could be worth tens of thousands of dollars. That may be a lot to the average citizen but for corps and government, it’s pennies to them.
I have never seen a captcha (much less a third-party service one) on my bank website. And the day I do is the day I walk into a branch and demand all my accounts be closed on the spot so I can take my business somewhere else. I understand the fear, but if the fear comes true, then this is a hill worth dying on. Be prepared to fight. We have to fight.
My previous bank was messing me around and making things awkward for me, so I rang them up and told them they needed to fix it to go back to the way I wanted, or I was taking our current account and savings accounts elsewhere. They just told me they couldn’t by policy. I made a complaint. They said they couldn’t by policy.
I did my research over the next couple of weeks and then I walked into a branch and asked for a printout of all my direct debits and standing orders. The teller did as I asked. That evening I got a phone call apologising and offering me exactly what I asked for.
No. Fuck you. You didn’t listen, you didn’t believe me, you just shat on me for as long as you thought it didn’t affect you, and then as soon as you saw I evidence I was serious now you want to fix it? No. Fuck off. Good riddance. I got myself a new bank thank you very much, where I got to choose how it worked.
The time to keep me was when I asked nicely or when I asked nicely again or when I complained. Once I’ve put time in researching other options, it’s way too late.
What is the significance of the print-out of direct debits and standing orders?
Before the EU legislated that banks should all make it easy to automatically transfer all bill payments etc over to a new current account, you would need to set these up yourself on your new account. There’s only one reason really that you would ask for all of that information, and the bank knew I was taking physical action to leave them.
I’ll drive to the fucking bank if I need them.
Sometimes it feels like people forget this used to be the only option. Was it a little annoying? Yeah. But oh well.
Ironically I remember reading somewhere that part of the reason people are so consistently shitty to each other is they forgot how to deal with the millions of little face to face interactions we had pre-internet in order to get things done in life. How ironic would it be if big tech forced us back into that mold and we all became a bit nicer because of it?
I long for the future you describe ;_;
French banks don’t have that kind of external captcha. They are paranoid about it for good reasons. Also fuck Google, they are not worth it.
I deleted my banking app off my phone because it asked me for a selfie lol. I will absolutely switch banks over this.
Yep. Me too.
Ppl say this with such conviction but what about your bank website?
Prepaid debit cards exist. Load money at any convenience store. You can even get a routing number/account number for it so you can direct deposit to it. You call a number to check your balance or lock your card.
What if it becomes industry standard and you have no other options?
There’s no such thing on the internet. Most lemmy instances with a captcha use hcaptcha or similar since its cheaper (free, in fact), as an example.
What about investments?
Loading prepaid debit cards at gas stations sounds like a rough life. I’d like to think that I’d have more conviction for privacy if it came to that, but everyone has their line I guess.
What about investments?
Doesn’t affect 90+% of people, and the remaining population frankly doesn’t deserve privacy since they don’t have anything to complain about.
Loading prepaid debit cards at gas stations sounds like a rough life. I’d like to think that I’d have more conviction for privacy if it came to that, but everyone has their line I guess.
Genuinely not bad unless you’re a complete shut-in. It’s also how the bottom 20% of Americans deal with online bill pay and interact financially with the digital world.
If you’re living under capitalism and not investing in any way, that’s not really some noble act, it’s you voluntarily staying broke and dependent on others in the future.
Should at least have some form of retirement fund going so you don’t have to leech off the taxes paid by the young when you’re old.
If you’re living under capitalism and not investing in any way, that’s not really some noble act, it’s you voluntarily staying broke and dependent on others in the future.
I’ll let you know when I magically have spare money in the worst global economy since the great depression.
Should at least have some form of retirement fund going so you don’t have to leech off the taxes paid by the young when you’re old.
No one checks their 401k often. Most people don’t consider that investment given its a scam they likely won’t ever cash in.
USA people don’t have a state pension?
Man you sound so brainwashed to me. Very American.
Very much not American but still investing what I can because no fucking way is the pension system still going to be there in 50 years, we haven’t produced enough children in decades.
There’s some pretty obvious middle ground before making a deposit to the First National Bank of My Mattress. You could find a different bank that doesn’t use those captchas, or even do all your banking in person.
I just got a letter regarding my FED tax return. They won’t send me a paper check due to an executive order signed by orange hitler. I absolutely do not want the federal government to have access to my bank data considering all the other rights violated along with the constitution. I now have to open a new checking account with $50 so I can get my shitty $50 refund without trump having access to my main account. (What’s to keep them from labeling me a terrorist and freezing my accounts? Gonna make that shit as hard as possible.)
bank acct or not, I’m sure they can freeze assets using your SSN if they really want to
Banking works just fine without apps and websites. They mail you a statement every month. You have a local branch for deposits and withdrawals. They give you a plastic card you can use to make purchases and withdraw from ATMs.
…yes? Some of us are really hardline about stuff. I appreciate the convenience of my bank, but I have learned that if you have loyalty of an outside company, business, etc, you are their bitch. Now me, I don’t mind being a bitch, but it’s for select people. Companies can lick on my balls and suck the dick. I almost closed a credit card with several-thousand dollars in credit because they wanted to verify my person. That was a potential fraud situation though, so after a couple days I decided that is a mutual benefit to keep the card and proceed with the verification.
But this shit? Nah. I’ve closed other accounts (some financial), for lesser reasoning, in the past.
I will probably first switch banks. Maybe ask EU for anti monopoly?
I don’t think I’ve ever been with a Dutch bank (or any critical/government service actually) that used captchas.
Some of the smaller online-only banks did start using those weird face videos with the colours for verification though.
The tech giant says the system only analyzes hand-movement points from a short video, does not record audio, and deletes the footage after verification.
It’s just a short video guys, there’s even no audio! And they pinky promise to delete it.
What a fucking shitshow that is. Like, honestly, I’m fine with regular captchas, even if they are the shitty ones. The newer (?) captchas that force you to do solve 5 bullshit “place this there” captchas are already reason enough for me to just leave the site. But if you force me to record a video of me throwing gang signs at the camera, probably several times again, because the movement was not correctly identified, I’m sure as fuck to never visit anything related to you ever again.
I also love the irony that Google fights
peoplebots, while they are scraping the whole internet and investing into AI automation massively.If they do delete the video, they might still take a screen capture or something.
Yes exactly. They’ll delete the video after making a detailed statistical model of it so they can use that for an AI that allows them to create an infinite number of videos that are visually indistinguishable from the original, but that are legally distinct and fair use of your original video, which they dutifully deleted exactly as they promised, for legal purposes. If you disagree or have any concerns with any part of this statement, you are welcome to file your complaint in the legal jurisdiction that Google has authorized you to use in their terms of service that you agreed to without reading, and their department of lawyers will be happy to assist you for decades.
You just know that video is going to be turned into training data of some kind or another. I think visual and audio versions will be around forever, and I hear that you can enter inaccurate words in the audio prompt and still get through. Might as well train it funny if you must train it at all.
Asks you to make gang signs and automatically adds you to the ICE database.
This is the automation we have all been waiting for
… I have no camera.
This new CAPTCHA’s prejudicial and exclusionary.
Not to mention grotesquely invasive.
Some people have no hands. Are those people supposed to wave their stump around? What about people who don’t even have stumps?
Also, some people who have arms can’t wave them around very easily, or at all
they would want facial recognition and ID eventually. much like facebook does.
I have a hand gesture for it.
= they are looking to improve AI hands
And there we go.
Fun fact: Phone cameras now have enough resolution for AI to get your fingerprints off a photo
Do they need to capture my face as well?
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I now mess around with all captchas. Each time a site asks me to find x or click on y. I purposely click the wrong ones to help feed the algorithm!
YouTube TV has this questionaire that says what brands have you heard of. It offers 4 brands and none of the above. However the Nimrods made it a checkbox instead of radio button. So of course every time I gladly fill out their survey. I say I’ve heard of all four and also none of the above. Anything to poison the data!
What, so we can help fix the hands?
Yup. They didn’t have enough hands, kinky or Carl.
The only gesture I’d ever give it:
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First time since I left Reddit that I just knew a comment would already exist, and here it is.
I guess I know which hand gesture I’ll be making
The fact that the show is a dude shooting another just raises this patent to the next level
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