• Steve@communick.news
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    19 days ago

    They aren’t moustached villains, actively plotting people’s misery for their joy.

    They’re simply making choices that are good for them personally, as anyone would. They aren’t thinking of any broader externalities and effects on people they’ve never met.

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        19 days ago

        Well it is, just like greed is a made up thing.

        In a proper world, altruism wouldn’t exist.
        It only does because nature is uncairing, and society can be cruel.

        But being made up doesn’t matter to my point. People can create a problem with one hand, while trying to fix it with another, having never noticed the connection.

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          19 days ago

          I would’ve been fine with your comment if you hadn’t included that. I don’t doubt these people are trying to act in their own self interests.

          But when you say “as anyone would” it implies everyone is horribly selfish and never takes other people into account when making decisions ever and this is just accepted common knowledge, which it isn’t.

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      19 days ago

      Few are cartoon villains; few are thinking of externalities. But the people pushing for this change know what they’re doing. They are actively plotting wealth transfer from the working class to the capitalist class.

      Those who suffer from conspiracy phobia are fond of saying: “Do you actually think there’s a group of people sitting around in a room plotting things?” For some reason that image is assumed to be so patently absurd as to invite only disclaimers. But where else would people of power get together – on park benches or carousels? Indeed, they meet in rooms: corporate boardrooms, Pentagon command rooms, at the Bohemian Grove, in the choice dining rooms at the best restaurants, resorts, hotels, and estates, in the many conference rooms at the White House, the NSA, the CIA, or wherever. And, yes, they consciously plot – though they call it “planning” and “strategizing” – and they do so in great secrecy, often resisting all efforts at public disclosure. No one confabulates and plans more than political and corporate elites and their hired specialists. To make the world safe for those who own it, politically active elements of the owning class have created a national security state that expends billions of dollars and enlists the efforts of vast numbers of people.

      — Michael Parenti

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      17 days ago

      These people ARE cartoonish villains because that is literally their entire cultural frame of reference. They are profoundly ignorant, none more than their Fuhrer himself. None of these people paid attention in school, they all beat up some nerd to do their homework. Obvious morons like Trump and Hegseth got their entire educations from TV and movies, and their entire political education from the Conservative Propaganda Machine.

      They are cartoonish buffoons, but they think they look tough. It’s obviously very frustrating for them that we don’t take their fearsomeness seriously.

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        17 days ago

        I can agree with those in political office.

        But I’m more refering to the common $100Millionare +. They generally aren’t trying to screw people for the fun of it. They just do what’s good for them, without thinking much of the externalities. In my experience most people work the same way. Once you point out the negative effects they’re causing, they’ll change what they do, in that instance at least. Then quickly go back to ignoring and forgetting the problem, because it’s not their problem.