Maybe it’s because I’m more used to windows but my experience any time I’ve had to use mac at work is I’d rather just be fired. At least with a bit of work you can set windows up to mostly fuck off but I’ve never figured out how to do that with mac so it aggressively gets in my way when coding and doing qa
In my experience, Finder can’t even do what it’s named (find anything) and it feels dumbed down like it doesn’t want me to find certain things (part of that may be MacOS’s design though too) ;(
Windows file explorer was alright, until they botched it in Windows 11 (like how the botched everything in that “update”). Last time I used it at work, they still hadn’t got tabs working without it being a buggy, slow mess.
Dolphin file explorer (for linux) is hands-down the best. It has every feature and integration I have ever wanted and it does what it says on the tin without being buggy. Truly the power users’ file explorer.
Not tryna refute your experiences though. These are just mine.
Maybe everyone has their biases, but MacOS is often terrible in comparison to Windows, at least in my experience. Hell simply things like snapping windows appropriately MacOS absolutely is trash at still.
It’s always seemed to me that MacOS is still suffering from design decisions made back in the 80’s when it was running on a single 9" monochrome screen, and Apple is far too stubborn to change it.
At least Microsoft isn’t afraid to change things up, even if a lot of their UI changes end up pretty questionable.
The first Mac I used was actually a Macintosh with a black and white screen. I don’t remember the exact model. We also had iMac G3 in school and later modern iMacs at work. My wife is also a Mac owner and has worked with them.
I’m no way an Apple expert in any way, shape or form. However. I do know enough about them to know that they’re ridiculously locked down to the point that you can barley call yourself an owner of your own system.
With that said. Apple computers are popular, so it’s apparently a winning concept for some, but it’s not something for me.
You can install and run anything you want on it. I have no idea what you mean by locked down. Are you confusing Mac’s and iPads? iPads are incredibly locked down.
I like being given a workflow designed by UX engineers, it means I don’t have to think about it and I can just do my work instead of figuring out the best workflow.
My opinion is that computers should stay out of the way as much as possible. It’s an appliance.
I like being given a workflow designed by UX engineers, it means I don’t have to think about it and I can just do my work instead of figuring out the best workflow.
And that’s perfectly fine, and probably the most sensible thing ad well. However. The user should have the option to do whatever they want to.
My opinion is that computers should stay out of the way as much as possible. It’s an appliance.
Exactly! And that’s not possible if you have to fight it every time you use it.
I understand the powertoys love but what does wsl give you that you don’t have with zsh & MacOS?
I run powershell on my Mac because I think pwsh is the bomb but I don’t get how wsl gives you anything that isn’t there on the Mac already, unless it’s a specific Linux wsl distro you greatly prefer.
The mac terminal is nice but i feel like it is missing a lot of the normal userland stuff that Linux typically has. Even power-shell has gotten better over the years but not Mac terminal.
Not sure why that warrants a yikes; macOS is far more usable than Windows 11. I’d go so far as to call it downright pleasant in comparison.
Maybe it’s because I’m more used to windows but my experience any time I’ve had to use mac at work is I’d rather just be fired. At least with a bit of work you can set windows up to mostly fuck off but I’ve never figured out how to do that with mac so it aggressively gets in my way when coding and doing qa
In what ways does it aggressively get in your way?
Most annoying thing for me was their file explorer thing. It’s as if I’m on a phone. It’s not a real file explorer.
I think real mac users have to buy third party software so they can have an actual file explorer…
I feel this one. The Finder and file-picking dialogs are genuinely awful.
Finder? I don’t really have a problem with it. I feel like it’s just as full featured as what you get on Lennox or windows.
In my experience, Finder can’t even do what it’s named (find anything) and it feels dumbed down like it doesn’t want me to find certain things (part of that may be MacOS’s design though too) ;(
Windows file explorer was alright, until they botched it in Windows 11 (like how the botched everything in that “update”). Last time I used it at work, they still hadn’t got tabs working without it being a buggy, slow mess.
Dolphin file explorer (for linux) is hands-down the best. It has every feature and integration I have ever wanted and it does what it says on the tin without being buggy. Truly the power users’ file explorer.
Not tryna refute your experiences though. These are just mine.
Maybe everyone has their biases, but MacOS is often terrible in comparison to Windows, at least in my experience. Hell simply things like snapping windows appropriately MacOS absolutely is trash at still.
It’s always seemed to me that MacOS is still suffering from design decisions made back in the 80’s when it was running on a single 9" monochrome screen, and Apple is far too stubborn to change it.
At least Microsoft isn’t afraid to change things up, even if a lot of their UI changes end up pretty questionable.
Different workflow, macOS does not expect you to snap windows. I’m not 100% familiar with the macOS workflow, but I know it’s different.
That’s the issue. IMHO. A desktop environment should not dictate how the user use it. That’s just stupid.
You realize you can change it right? Macs aren’t locked down at all, you can configure anything you want.
Mine works very similar to windows (I think, haven’t used windows in ages), where you drag to the edge/top for full screen or split screen.
Not locked down at all? I’d be surprised if you can even change the wallpaper. :D
Very easy to change wallpaper.
Much harder to run non-authorized applications :(
Ok yeah, you’ve never used a Mac lol why do you comment on things you have no clue about?
The first Mac I used was actually a Macintosh with a black and white screen. I don’t remember the exact model. We also had iMac G3 in school and later modern iMacs at work. My wife is also a Mac owner and has worked with them.
I’m no way an Apple expert in any way, shape or form. However. I do know enough about them to know that they’re ridiculously locked down to the point that you can barley call yourself an owner of your own system.
With that said. Apple computers are popular, so it’s apparently a winning concept for some, but it’s not something for me.
You can install and run anything you want on it. I have no idea what you mean by locked down. Are you confusing Mac’s and iPads? iPads are incredibly locked down.
I like being given a workflow designed by UX engineers, it means I don’t have to think about it and I can just do my work instead of figuring out the best workflow.
My opinion is that computers should stay out of the way as much as possible. It’s an appliance.
And that’s perfectly fine, and probably the most sensible thing ad well. However. The user should have the option to do whatever they want to.
Exactly! And that’s not possible if you have to fight it every time you use it.
I agree, user choice is important, which is why I use Linux :) (GNOME)
Linux based operating systems is great! However. GNOME? Can you even change the wallpaper there? :D
lol I actually didn’t even care to change the wallpaper
Yeah mac os is the best middle ground. It is a lot more like Linux than Windows will ever be
I wouldn’t say so. PowerToys and WSL are absolutely incredible tools for advanced users.
I understand the powertoys love but what does wsl give you that you don’t have with zsh & MacOS?
I run powershell on my Mac because I think pwsh is the bomb but I don’t get how wsl gives you anything that isn’t there on the Mac already, unless it’s a specific Linux wsl distro you greatly prefer.
Not the OP but I agree WSL doesn’t offer much over Mac unless you care about GNU vs BSD.
The mac terminal is nice but i feel like it is missing a lot of the normal userland stuff that Linux typically has. Even power-shell has gotten better over the years but not Mac terminal.