He continued in a similar, ranty vein, “Don’t believe the Radical Left’s Fake Poll numbers. They are Crooked and Corrupt, just like the Country Destroying Dumocrats are Crooked and Corrupt. VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR GREATNESS IN AMERICA!”
Fresh data from CNN puts his approval at a meager 34 percent, matching his post-Jan. 6 trough, while a new AP-NORC poll has him tied at a post-2017 low of 33 percent. Quinnipiac paints an even grimmer picture, dropping him to a career low of 32 percent.
I’m just throwing this out there, but has he maybe tried not being an absolute piece of shit?
That’s crazy talking! We have other solutions: banning polls, cheating polls, outright faking polls. There is no alternative here!
Besides, at this stage, if he was to ask what he could do to make things right, he would get a range of answers from “resign” to “kill yourself in the most painful way you can”.
I’m planning to celebrate when he drops through 30%. He can do it, I have total faith in his virtuosic incompetence.
As long as outlets like the Daily Beast keep talking about him and keeping his name out there he is getting what he wants. You want to hurt Trump, one of the best ways is to not pay any attention to him.
He’s been “fuming”, “exploding”, “blasting”, and “slamming” for several years now. Fuck mainstream media
Daily beast is garbage.
The one thing I like about the Daily Beast is that they always put his age in the title. I always read that as “here something else this old motherfucker did”
Yeah. Every other headline is about how Trump MELTED, or CRASHED OUT, or left SHITTING IN HIS DIAPERS.
Wake me up when Trump is in jail or sleeping forever.
Bullshit. He could care less. All it is is an indicator his misinformation etc is working just dandy.
Yeah, ‘tied with 2017’ and this is supposed to be news. The only news here is that 30% of the electorate remain idiots. I’m kind of dead curious to see what the world would have to look like for them to gain even the tiniest shred of awareness. Unfortunately, we might actually get the chance.
There’s still people that approve of him?
80+ million of them. It reminds me of the George Carlin quote: “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
Many. I haven’t seen any signs of his support waning where I live. Same signs, flags, bumper stickers, etc. Even the Trump 2028 crap. And if you read the comments on my local newspaper’s website, you’ll hear plenty from them.
His current obsession with the threat of “communism” really seems to be resonating with them.
Crazy that 34% still approve of him but I guess realistically it cant get that much lower considering 10% will always be contrarians and 20% is about amount of americans that actively want to destroy the American project. for context I’m not an american
Oh it finally moved from 40% to 35%? Amazing. Probably exclusively due to gas prices.
Only things that affect them personally. Not even their kids, as evidenced by their antivaxxer indulgence. Just them.
If you look back at Nixon’s numbers, even as he resigned in total disgrace, it will tell you a lot. The teaching of that history might lead one to believe it would be at or near zero approval, but that’s not the case.
I doubt that Americans are all that unique in this by the way. I bet every country has their base of anti-intellectuals who want to see others being hurt (esp. women, POC, gays) and to give the finger to people that know more than they do, have more education than they do, etc. - AKA, the group of people these dumbasses call “elites”.
If you look back at Nixon’s numbers, even as he resigned in total disgrace, it will tell you a lot.
Everything Nixon did was weak sauce compared to Trump. I don’t understand why Nixon was so vilified, his framework for healthcare was eventually adopted as Obamacare, he signed the SALT treaty with Russia, he opened up trade with China, he tailed off troops from Vietnam war supported by Kennedy and Johnson. He ended the draft (started by Johnson) , he started the EPA, he declared war on cancer, increased the NIH, increased CDC…no president increased this spending until Clinton.
Big fucking difference from Trump’s accomplishments, which in his second term are still zero. Literally cannot list one positive action from Trump.
He convinced the North Vietnamese to stay away from the Paris Peace Talks, so he could get elected (which LBJ called “treason”), then he allowed the war to go on for his entire term, so he could use it to get elected again - “Peace is at hand” and "Don’t change horses mid-stream - as if the president who was waging war for political purposes was interested in pursuing peace.
It only ended because we lost the war, Saigon was overrun, and America had to run for it, our worst, most humiliating military loss in history. Nixon never really wanted Peace.
58,000 young American soldiers died, most of them under Nixon’s watch, many of them drafted by the government out of their childhood bedrooms, to die in a tiny country halfway around the world, that posed no threat to America in any way, just so Nixon could get reelected. And do Watergate.
Any wonder why people wanted him gone?
58,000 young American soldiers died, most of them under Nixon’s watch, many of them drafted by the government out of their childhood bedrooms
The Vietnam war was started by John F. Kennedy and escalated through a huge number of corrupt military contracts benefitting Johnson’s cronies (search Brown and Root). The 58,000 who died were mostly drafted by Johnson, who initiated the draft. This was the Democrat’s war. But Lyndon Johnson somehow gets written as the hero and Nixon the villain. It was a 20 year war, and Nixon was only president for 5 years and he had a lot of shit to clean up, mostly tied to MIC corruption in Vietnam which killed a lot of American kids. Nixon ended the draft, he ended the war, not sure where your history is coming from, but Lemmy Democrats can be as bad as MAGA.
In the big picture 1950-2026, Nixon was not as bad a President as people want to believe.
Nixon won both of his elections by saying he would end the war, and did absolutely nothing to do that, and expanded the war. It’s on him.
For what it’s worth, LBJ sucks, too. It’s not a party thing.
This was the Democrat’s war.
If you use this lens of thinking for pre-70’s america, you won’t ever really understand that culture.
Thing is, Americans weren’t anywhere near as polarized as today. So republicans and democrats probably agreed on a lot of things even on the campaign trail. A vice president would be a president from the *opposite * party as a sign of cooperation.
People wouldn’t be pointing fingers at any party over this because odds are both parties wanted the war to happen for various reasons. It was simply “America’s war”.
In the big picture 1950-2026, Nixon was not as bad a President as people want to believe.
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That just shows how far standards fell in America
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That doesn’t ubdo the evils done beforehand
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Compared to trump, Jackson isn’t such a bad guy. But at the same time, it’s a tad rich to denigrate Lemmy Democrats in the same sentence you go full Nixon apologist.
Heres the deal: you can say history was too unkind to nixon and quibble about all the tedious the details all you want - but only once you’ve spent a couple days traipsing around Siem Reap. I absolutely guarantee you’ll get over the urge to play this asinine “who was history’s biggest monster” bullshit and get on to something more productive, like joining me in drinking ourselves to death because nothing will ever get better.
I’m guessing it’s the cluster b folks
I hope that when he dies, he will know he was unloved his whole life. Especially the last 10 of them.
I can guarantee you that he won’t, because as a narcissist, his brain is utterly incapable of even forming such a thought.
Rule proposal: no putting Trump’s age near the front of the headline unless it’s the headline for which we’re all waiting.
I actually kind of like it. Nobody ever shut up about how old biden was even though his admin did all the work. Trump is a much worse – sorry, I mean “hands on” leader, so his age is even more relevant. When he acts like the petulant baby he is journalists should absolutely remind everyone that he’s a geriatric.
Could not agree more. I got so sick of the “biden so old” bullshit as if that was ever really a problem during his administration.
Biden was too old, Trump was too old. The average age of the house was 65 at one point. The entire government is too fucking old to care about the future of the country.
Then put it at the end, don’t get my hopes up for just a moment only to crush them once again!
The headlines we’re looking for are going to extrie-extrie news. TRUMP DEAD, US PRESIDENT DIES IN OFFICE, DING DONG DONALD IS GONE type shit.
Also let’s be real memes are the real celebrity obituary of our time.
I could wake up in the middle of the desert with no electronics on me the day he dies and I’m sure I’d be able to hear the wind tell me “Trump is dead"It.'ll be that obvious.
More likely, I’ll probably hear fireworks outside on a random day and be woken up by partying in the streets before checking my phone.
How can 1/3 of Americans think this child rapist is doing a good job?
Their separation from our reality is total and goes back many years. It’s not like they lived the same life but just this morning decided “nah that child rapist guy is ok.” For years they have been hearing from totally different information sources (I use this term loosely) a totally different narrative. It’s just one partisan witch hunt after another to them. None of it is real.
The fuller and more interesting version of your question is how 1/3 of America came to live in an alternate reality. I think we know most of that story but it is the real phenomenon at the bottom of this
Hurting brown people and “communists” is more important than anything else to that 1/3.
btw “communists” are just any people who think the health insurance industry is fucked and way too expensive, and that all people deserve to be treated equally, and that the ultra wealthy shouldn’t have as much power as they do.
Has nothing to do with actual communism but the far right propaganda machine is trying to poison any of these ideas with a radioactive word to anyone who remembers the red scare in the 1950s (which, btw, was also a complete bullshit witch hunt because workers were getting too many rights at that point and starting to cut into potential profits of the ultra wealthy cancerous tumors).
btw “communists” are just any people who think the health insurance industry is fucked and way too expensive, and that all people deserve to be treated equally, and that the ultra wealthy shouldn’t have as much power as they do.
It’s simpler than that. To them, “communists” and “socialists” are the same, and it’s anyone that doesn’t think businesses should be able to do anything they want, and any person non-conforming to their personal view of “normal” isn’t even human. While most will not, some will even admit both of those publicly.
To them, “communists” and “socialists” are the same
Like “DEI” and “woke,” they’re just synonyms for “ME NO LIKE!!”
See: “The Case for Fascism” youtube video just released by Steven Crowder. No need to watch it to give them more views, but it’s fucking crazy. You can watch all kinds of reaction explainers on it.
The American Fascist Right was clearly on the wrong side when they publicly called Mister Rogers an “evil, evil man” back in 2007 (notably, 4 years after his death).
https://mashable.com/video/fox-and-friends-mr-rogers-evil
https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-blame-mr-rogers-25e2e90ff05/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-fred-rogers-evil/Isn’t it funny that every older generation accuses every younger generation of being weak and spoiled? This time, they wanted to scapegoat a national treasure, who did more for kids than any of their bullshit trickle-down, bootstrap, hate-filled policies.
To these cretins, they’re constantly living in fear and anger about society being on the verge of collapse, unless people buy into their hyper-masculine, violent, parternalistic and ultracapitalist worldview.
Propaganda works.
Assaults on education work
I was thinking brainwashing… but I guess it’s the same thing.
Because some people are just dipshit racists
REPUBLICAN
VOTERS
LOVE
RAPING
CHILDREN
AND
GENOCIDE
Everyone who ever gaslit you that this wasn’t the case was wrong.
Republicans are, at their very best, the parents who know their kids are being raped by an adult, and punish the kid for speaking up about it because it embarrasses them and they rather the child rape happen in the dark.
I tried for like 5 min to figure out what this spelled….
He hates women, black people and minorities in general.
He’s loud, crass, obnoxious.
He’s tacky.
He’s petty.
It’s a cult. Most will never stop believing.
Turns out the people who are quickest to say something is unamerican are also the same people who will ignore American values like the Pledge of Allegiance and the US Constitution just to “win.”
The Pledge began as a marketing gimmick:
As branding expert John Gorman outlines, the pledge began with an initiative from The Youth’s Companion, a Boston-based magazine looking to expand beyond its religious roots. To reach a broader audience, the editors launched a nationwide effort to place American flags in public schools, offering them as incentives for new subscriptions.
Not such a great example of “American values”, or perhaps since it started as a corporate marketing gimmick it’s a perfect example.
They’re locked in a decades-long cycle of abusive extraction.
American religion, politics, economics, and ecology are reaching the limits of an unsustainable system that only knows how to extract wealth and power. The Soviet Union collapsed for similar reasons. Above all, that form of government collapsed under the weight of propping up The Party’s false reality and its debts to the truth. Real operating principles flow from hard-learned evidence, experience, and wisdom. Societies simply cannot operate indefinitely from convoluted principals engineered to benefit only the few. This is the flaw in the philosophy behind modern conservatism - it’s fundamentally abusive.
People stick with the devils they know. When long-term planning is negated by the cognitive load of navigating abuse, it can be almost impossible to adapt to new sustainable modes of thinking and living. When the house of cards collapses, those unable to adapt cannot be saved.
They don’t know or understand what he’s doing. They just know he’s a republican and that’s why they support him.
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They have turds for brains
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Because he wears a red tie or whatever the team colors are
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It’s probably those that think it’s liberal media lies (I was going to use slander but they probably don’t know the meaning of the word) and he’s doing a good job at sticking it to the Democrats.
Unless this results in a Democrat landslide so substantial that they sweep every Senate seat up for grabs and win huge in the House, I cannot see this being the end of Trump. It would need to be a more substantial result than this year’s Hungary Parliament elections which awarded Magyar a two-thirds majority that could undo the damage Viktor Orban did upon the state.
Donald has been impeached twice. Both impeachments failed because you need a two-thirds majority in the Senate to convict. A third impeachment will probably fail unless the scenario I outlined above does happen by some absolute fluke.
If anything, Trump is far more likely to be removed via the 25th Amendment. He’s 80 years old, showing worsening signs of dementia, and I can definitely see the cabinet trying to convince him to stand down and let Vance salvage their chances for 2028. That is unless Trump chooses to challenge their attempts to invoke the 25th Amendment, in which case it goes to Congress. A two-thirds majority will then be needed in both houses to remove Trump.
25th still requires ⅔ of each the House and Senate. It’s like impeachment, but with more steps.
unparalleled respect and success throughout the World
Uh… that’s one way to say it. Unparalleled.
He hadn’t had a stroke so far, so the polls are still not bad enough.
Apart from that, how can a third of the country still not grasp what is happening?
A third of the country has been denied adequate education and services because the inequitable distribution of resources towards affluent urban versus poor rural areas.
Democrats have failed to significantly improve the material conditions in some of the poorest areas of the country, so a lot of rural voters feel betrayed and would rather go with the guy who is a outright greedy jerk, than the politician who talks out of the side of their mouth, while still obeying their corporate masters.
That’s not entirely true though. Biden got through the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill that invested heavily in developing rural electric and internet. He also supported the USDA ReConnect Program, and several other initiatives. Many of these things that Democrats helped pushed through were celebrated as “wins” by Republican Representatives.
What were they expecting?
Edit". I will say that more investments should have been made in education, but I will always say that we don’t invest enough in education.
Edit". I will say that more investments should have been made in education, but I will always say that we don’t invest enough in education.
I can’t disagree with that.
And I also have to concede that a lot of rural voters have gotten entrenched into their ultra religious echo chambers, and anything that has to do with public education gets rejected as “woke agenda” to them. So they vote against their own interests.
The problem was created by lack of resources and now that the effects have firmly taken root, it’s hard to reverse course.
perhaps a president that would value justice and holding insurrectionists accountable more than decorum, or who could speak the people more than once a year and was not a grimacing mumbling speech, or for a president to understand he had record levels of unpopularity and was not suited to run again, letting the dems actually provide excitement and pick from a primary of candidates and not the regularly first dropped primary candidate in all her previous attempts
I won’t disagree with any of that. There’s many many things that could have been done better.
This is the real answer. Rural areas have been completely ignored other than subsidies for corporations and wealthy farmers. No funding for schools or hospitals or roads or infrastructure.
So they voted in a way that is counterproductive, that might make their lives worse. That seems silly until you remember their lives were already being made worse.
That third of the country is what the Republicans rely on, they’re their hardcore voting bloc. They will be for anything the Republicans do because “The Democrats are doing it but worse!” They believe that the reason Democrats don’t get in trouble so often is they’re better at hiding their horrendous acts instead of just not doing them. As well they’re generational voters, have voted Republican since Lincoln and never will change.
Apart from that, how can a third of the country still not grasp what is happening?
Denial and/or propaganda.
I find it almost unbelievable that 30+% still support him !?
And 30℅ were on the fence about putting an impeached rapist with a history of self enrichment and grifting into the highest office in the land. Apparently they were ok with it.
30% of the country are stuck in isolated suburban hellscapes where their main source of information is Fox News, talk radio, and online echo chambers full of people who do the same. Another 30% are also stuck in isolated suburban hellscapes but they’re not stuck in the same dis-information loop.
I came up with a 20-30% rule. Roughly each quarter of population is always divided into different political camps. It’s not what I experimented and surveyed on but it’s what I have always observed in terms of voting patterns since history, especially in Europe. The Nazis won only about a quarter of voting population but they had to form a coalition to form a government. Similarly, the various Spanish left wing parties also had to form a coalition with each other before the Spanish Civil War, until the losing right wingers staged a coup to take power sparking the civil war.
If we look at the voting pattern as well in the previous American presidential elections, only 60% of eligible voting population went to the polling booth. More than half of those who voted elected Trump while the other remaining elected Kamala. So, of those who voted, about 30-35% elected for either candidates. Those who did not vote comprise 40% and they did not do so for various reasons. It’s safe to assume that of those 40%, half are either liberal/left or right/conservative who did not feel energised by either Kamala or Trump and would rather elect their own preferred candidate (Sanders, Jill Stein, Haley etc).
Those are just my guesstimate but it roughly correlates with voting patterns in various countries if ranked choice voting and proportional representation happens. Even though some countries with no ranked choise and proportional representation, about one quarter of people are of certain inclinations. So, it is unsurprising that 30% of Americans are fascists supporting Trump. Those adjacent or apologists of Trump may not be outright fascists, but are enablers or useful idiots.
30% of any larger group are raving lunatics. This is a universal rule.
Probably closer to 20%, which coincides with the support Hitler had at the last elections his country held before the war.
