Tennessee congressional candidate Adam Heimerman was arrested for shooting four Flock Safety ALPR cameras, facing felony vandalism charges in the same district debating the tech.
    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
      64·
      19 days ago

      This is a terrible, myopic way to decide who becomes your representative, and I’m honestly sad Lemmy is even upvoting this.

      You need a points system, otherwise everyone’s going to min–max on the low-hanging fruit. “The most” is too basic a metric, but of course as always, Lemmy doesn’t understand the practical realities of politics.

      • SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world
        9·
        18 days ago

        Ricochet and penetration can happen even if you’re on target. The thin shielding of these cameras isn’t going to do much to stop a bullet. There’s certainly more responsible ways of going about this.

        • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
          8·
          18 days ago

          A shotgun with medium-weight birdshot would work well and wouldn’t pose much risk of bullets falling on people. (Birdshot is too light to hold much velocity for long, and even if pellets hit people when coming back down, they’ll be small enough and moving slow enough to be harmless.)

            • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
              2·
              18 days ago

              Eh, .22 suppressed is good for not getting caught yourself, but could still be dangerous to bystanders if you miss or go through the target.

              • Hathaway@lemmy.zipEnglish
                1·
                18 days ago

                I disagree. If I’m using a can and not wanting to get caught, I’m using subsonic, which, absolutely will not have the energy to do anything.

                Even super sonic, you’re talking about a couple hundred yards, max. With the precision of shooting one projectile. Your shotgun is going to be just as dangerous, and shooting a spread. So, good luck not missing your target.

                In case you’re curious, I used to run a gun store, and I was an infantryman, I’m not going to say I definitively have more experience than you, but, it’s likely. I know SWAT guys that carry .22 specially for shooting lights.(well cameras these days but they won’t say that)

                • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
                  1·
                  17 days ago

                  Your shotgun is going to be just as dangerous

                  Eh… I get where you’re coming from, but most birdshot is still significantly lighter than a single .22 slug – especially a heavy subsonic .22

                  You might be right that subsonic .22 won’t be dangerous by the time it comes back down, but you’re absolutely wrong to say that it’s less dangerous than birdshot.

                  And I’m still not totally convinced of the harmlessness of .22 at range. Sources I’ve found claim that it can still ‘cause harm’ at up to ~2000m. (Of course it’s by no means a practical round for shooting that far, but that’s because of accuracy issues, not because the bullet isn’t still carrying energy at that range.)

                  And I really wouldn’t put much stock in the beliefs and practices of “SWAT guys”. Cops are often misinformed about the guns they use, and they tend to only give lip service to public safety.

        • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          18 days ago

          There’s certainly more responsible ways of going about this.

          Maybe, but we’re talking about Tennessee

    • NotBillMurray@lemmy.world
      1·
      17 days ago

      Eh, bird shot would likely be enough to fuck a camera up and is highly unlikely to damage anything on the way down.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      18 days ago

      Yeah, but Donvict didn’t conduct his crimes against property like this guy.

      To hear the cons tell it, BLM riots set entire cities on fire, and the property of businesses were harmed. This, plus mandated shutdowns were the “real” crimes we should have all been more concerned about, as opposed to murder-by-cop or a bungled Covid response that kill a huge surplus of Americans that didn’t have to die.

      I’m just sayin’ - the cons tend to place far more value on property. If Donvict raped some children and some women that’s gonna be met with a collective yawn by the conservatives because no property or businesses were harmed…