Not the mainstream one. He doesn’t hold any clout amongst most of us as a gay man. We don’t listen to him; he’s no gayfluencer. But Andrew Tate holds clout as a manfluencer.
Exactly, both groups are large enough to contain more than one community. I’m not sure there’s even a way to define a “mainstream” community of men beyond patriarchal roles so general that a lot of individual masculinities within their bounds define themselves just as much in opposition to each other as in opposition to women.
And as a point of comparison, rich white creeps whom no one on Grindr wants to touch have much, much more material power to ruin lives across the world than the mainstream LGBTQ+ community. If we can define a positive, radical queerness opposed to Altman and Buttigieg and their interests, I think it’s equally important to leave room for an equally positive masculinity opposed to whatever Tate is doing nowadays.
If there’s an LGBTQ+ community, there’s a man community.
It depends, would you consider Sam Altman part of the LGBTQ+ community?
Not the mainstream one. He doesn’t hold any clout amongst most of us as a gay man. We don’t listen to him; he’s no gayfluencer. But Andrew Tate holds clout as a manfluencer.
Exactly, both groups are large enough to contain more than one community. I’m not sure there’s even a way to define a “mainstream” community of men beyond patriarchal roles so general that a lot of individual masculinities within their bounds define themselves just as much in opposition to each other as in opposition to women.
And as a point of comparison, rich white creeps whom no one on Grindr wants to touch have much, much more material power to ruin lives across the world than the mainstream LGBTQ+ community. If we can define a positive, radical queerness opposed to Altman and Buttigieg and their interests, I think it’s equally important to leave room for an equally positive masculinity opposed to whatever Tate is doing nowadays.
Ah so these “communities” are just based on what an individual gets sorted into aor out of according to u/Grail