For the last couple of years, we have traveled with burners and left our primary phones at home. Old phone models are surprisingly capable and cheap.
This is what I plan on doing.
Fucking fascists. 🖕🤬🖕
I cut out the middle man and just switched to the old models permanently. I don’t need a smart phone, not f it’s spying on me.
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The main reason I didn’t go with this approach is because if they decide to take it, I’m out of a phone. If they take my cheap burner, it served its purpose.
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But, to wipe a computer, you have to delete, then write new information over it. Deleting just deletes the references or whatever to the information.
If you’re using encryption you should be good.
I would not be so sure about that now a days. I bet the government(s) have backdoors to a lot of this. You heard it here first ish. So when it comes out, I do require you to say, that asshole online was right.
in the meantime I’ll say “👆this asshole IS wrong”
As long as you agree you are shitbitch with a dirty asshole that pisses shit out of you dickhole, sure.
man did you ever misread this guys reply. he was using your own term. you really should have took it with good humor rather than as rage bait. you said you required people to say that asshole is right and he came back that asshole is wrong. I totally would have written something like that. although I personally do not think encryption might not have back doors so not as much on this particular comment but I totally love riffing on a line from a comment to make another comment.
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Is there currently any way on android of getting a local backup and restoring it after a factory reset? It seems access to application data is so limited, you’re stuck with whatever backup functionality the specific devs chose for their app.
Whatever your device supports. Every Android variant (Samsung, Lineage, Graphene) supports something different. I don’t think AOSP has any native tools.
Unless you root and use whatever you want.
It seems my phone supports backing up through the Google account. So no local backups and only some apps appear in the list. If it’s the same as when changing to a new phone that’s pretty inadequate.
Could get a burner and then back it all up to a zip file send it to yourself in an email and then recover it later on. Factory reset your phone before you leave the country and don’t log in to Google, give the phone to a homeless when you come back to the US after clearing security. Lmfao
The question is what to put in the zip. Do you have to use each app’s backup mechanism (if it exists) and gather the files yourself? This works I guess but it’s very time consuming.
graphene OS with duress PIN, but you don’t give them the PIN - you write it on a slip of paper that you put between the phone and the case. Now, whoever takes your phone without consent has a good chance of finding your bait and wiping it clean for you.
Reminder to factory reset your phone before handing it over the authorities.
Wasn’t a guy persecuted for using kill switch just for that?
Yep, specifically for
enteringproviding the duress password for the ICEstapo agent to into his phone that had GrapheneOS on it to wipe it beforehanding it over toit was taken by the authorities.Which led to DHS/CBP prosecuting him for “evidence tampering”.
I’d still rather wipe my phone than openly give it to authorities. Guy should have had a better lawyer. Being arrested for evidence tampering when there is no crime is practically the same as being arrested with the only charge being resisting arrest. Good lawyer gets that case thrown out.
He’s going to be prosecuted, whether he’s found guilty and what he’s found guilty of is still TBD
No. They already had him and the device, and he gave them the wipe pin when they asked him for the unlock pin. That’s destruction of evidence.
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I doubt any court would agree with you.
I looked it up and they cover the definition pretty well, that’s why i deleted the comment.
The government can search your butthole if it wants.
Is this limited to phones or any device? (Laptop / gaming handheld)
In the US it’s any electronic device, not just phones. CBP’s own rules (Directive 3340-049A, from 2018) define it broadly: laptops, tablets, cameras, hard drives, game consoles, anything that stores data.
The directive splits searches into two kinds:
- Basic search: an officer manually looks through the device. No suspicion needed.
- Advanced search: they connect external equipment to copy or analyze the contents. That officially requires reasonable suspicion or a national security concern, plus supervisor approval.
One detail that’s useful for planning: the directive says officers are only supposed to search what’s stored on the device itself, not data that lives only in the cloud, and they’re meant to ask you to disable network connectivity first. So something that just syncs from a server once you’re home (and isn’t cached locally) is in a different position from files on the disk. Courts in different circuits have also ruled differently on how much suspicion is needed, so it’s not entirely settled.
Thanks for explanation.
