• One_Honest_Dude@lemmy.world
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      The older generation ceded our power to the wealthy. They went gleefully along with tax policy designed to move money to the top, anti union legislation, increasing costs of education, stymieing environmental regulation, not pursuing and enforcing trust busting measures, offshoring industry, etc , etc. They weren’t the driving force, you could claim they were tricked, but it was their own short sighted greed and often bigotry that allowed them to go along with it. And they by and large continue to support all that same shit.

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        It’s the continued support and denial instead of contrition that makes this meme fine for me. Don’t want to be targeted? Make it right.

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        And Gen-Z helped elect Trump in 2024.

        Saying that problems are because if a certain group of people is just dumb analysis. It is always about broader systems of power. Capitalism has it’s ways to bend democracy to it’s will.

        The ruling class wants you to blame the elderly for the problems in the world. Because then you aren’t focused on the real issues.

        If we really wanna fix problems instead of fighting each other, we need to really stop bigotry in all it’s forms and start becoming class conscious.

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          So the real issue here arent the thoughts and actions of Boomers and Gen X even though we are here because of those thoughts and actions?

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        The older generation ceded our power to the wealthy.

        Did they actually? Or are you just saying that?

        it was their own short sighted greed and often bigotry that allowed them to go along with it

        Did we take any kind of vote on our actual energy policy? Did we collectively decide to build highways over railways or big trucks over dense housing blocks at some point?

        Who decided to tear up the streetcars?

        The Americans who believe their democracy is real are as bad as the ones who believe climate change is fake.

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          Oh, okay- so you’re just cowards who spent half a century allowing it because you didn’t want to risk your relative comfort.

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              Did I suggest they were any better?

              I mean… they’re not. But fuck you for that disingenuous little sleight of hand where “they didn’t fight fascism hard enough” somehow becomes equivalent to “we voted for the fascists,” and also fuck you for making me defend their cowardly asses.

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                The generation wars are bullshit.

                But we cant deny one generation has moved america to where it is and they still refuse to admit theyre in the driver’s seat, are too drunk to drive, and insist only they can do it

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            you didn’t want to risk your relative comfort

            I’m still not sure who this “you” is.

            Who do you think invented the Solar Panel? Who has been the most rapid adopters? Who built the wind farms? Who did the research that tells us Climate Change is even happening?

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        So by your nonsensical logic the current young generation is at fault for ceding more power than have been ceded in a long time to fascist oligarchs in the US.

        It is plain bullshit nonsense. And you have gobbled up all of the ageism propaganda created by the oligarch propagandeers to make you completely forget the actual issue of class war.

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        Older generations also elected FDR four times and created the only social safety nets we have, created the EPA, eliminated smog, cleaned up our rivers, created the endangered species list, etc.

        I’m getting really sick of how easily some of you fall for these obvious divide and conquer tactics. Wake the fuck up and actually think critically for once. Climate change is far more of a class issue than generational one.

        Conservatives blame immigrants and minorities for their problems, liberals blame old people. People are fooled so fucking easily but I bet you think you’re so much smarter than magats.

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          People are fooled so fucking easily but I bet you think you’re so much smarter than magats.

          Dang, I sure hope I never run into one of those types who think they’re the smartest person in the room. That sound’s insufferable.

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          Boomers did not elect FDR, if they had continued the politics of their parents we would be much better off. There is plenty of blame to go around. The true villains are the oligarchs and politicians who do/did their bidding but that does not absolve the foot soldiers.

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      somebody voted GOP to have Trump in charge and paying companies to NOT block wind farms, somebody keeps buying giant trucks and voting to rip up bike lanes etc

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      Environmentalists from the prior generations aren’t real. Nobody has ever done anything about climate change ever before and they’re not doing anything now and they never will.

      That’s why the best way to fight climate change is to divide into generational cohorts and scream “Your Fault!” at everyone older.

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      Ya, my grandma never had a private jet or a megayacht. Not sure how her 300sq ft bungalow she lived in for 40 years and tending a community garden plot led to the environmental and socioeconomical issues we face now.

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          And Americans did elect trump who is ruining the world. The majority of people are voting with their money day by day to make billionaires more rich, and our only home more and more unhabitable even now. Nothing new, same old shit, same patterns.

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            Trump didn’t just suddenly get to where he was. He’s the result of over 50 years worth of Republicans fucking the country.