They can still eat shit since they STILL fund anti-lgbtq organizations, to my knowledge.
I don’t care if they still fund it or not. When somebody shows you who they are, believe them the first time.
With a corporation, that gets complicated. IIRC, it was the CEO and/or other top executives, not the company itself. And those executives are now gone, but still funding the same atrocities.
The new executives still aren’t great, so it’s easy in this particular case. But what if they really were different?
Words are cheap, I’ll forgive them only if they do a 180 and actually start supporting the community instead of funding bigots.
I like their food and their service is top notch, so I’d be glad to see positive change from them.
I like their food
Have you considered trying literally any other Chicken joint in the South? Most of the other ones actually season their food so that it tastes different from the packaging it comes in.
Yes? It’s fast food, not good food. I haven’t eaten there in years because there’s a local chicken place across the street that’s ten times better.
Eww, judging by the sound of it you like the taste of boots too.
Where the fuck do you get that idea? A business with shitty ownership can be well run from the customer perspective. If it weren’t for the ownership, I would eat there.
Nobody can change?
In this case, Jesus chicken has always been anti lgbtq. Their long history would prevent me from forgiving them for that, but maybe if it was under new ownership or something.
And in the general case?
I have no problem forgiving people if that’s what you’re getting at. There’s a difference between forgiveness and excusing bad behavior, though.
People can change, but how often have you personally seen some MAGA chud or anti-lgbtq bigot realize they’ve been an asshole and change themselves for the better? I won’t say those things never happen, but I’m pretty sure it’s fucking rare.
Fair point, but I’d struggle to forgive a business even more than a person. Sometimes it also doesn’t matter if they change if what they’ve done is awful enough.
This isn’t a “body”, its a fucking company. If people weren’t so fucking sedated they would be out of business for their hate
A corporation?
Sure people can change.
But they don’t seem to have.
The one nearest me is owned by a gay couple. Not sure how that slipped through the cracks…
I dont really understand it, but their employees in my area seem to be like, 30% gay. Maybe they are all closeted religious folk, but surely that cant be.
I know you mean that 30% their employees are gay, but it tickles me that it reads like you’re assigning them a position on the Kinsey scale.
Maybe they are just people who need a job??
Christofascist chicken or AI fueled burgers…hmm, maybe I’ll just get some tacos.
The taco guy on the corner and the halal truck down the street. I trust them with my life.
Cheaper to eat at home.
Ah yes, let me come home in between two doubles and spend time prepping, cooking, and cleaning instead of getting that precious extra hour of rest.
You’ll feel better and it’s likely to take you less time than ordering and waiting for something to show up. If you’re just doing pick up, it will save you 2/3 of the money you’re working doubles to make and then lighting on fire to eat fast “food”.
If you’ve got a rice cooker and a toaster oven I’ve got a couple of recipes less than 10 mins of actual work. I understand not wanting to work too hard at it too though.
I mostly cook at home and only occasionally eat fast food, but as a cooking enthusiast it’s rarely cheaper…
I think it depends what you’re cooking. Of course it’s not cheaper to eat at home on the days that I’m busting out dry aged prime ribeye. But the days that I’m doing teriyaki chicken bowls on the grill over rice, that’s obscenely cheaper than like $15 per person fast food meals.
My taco bell has been usually an ai voice in the drive through. The staff thinks it needs too much babysitting to be helpful.
They can do whatever they want, still not supporting them. Their food isn’t good.
Nor are their politics!
I’m a Popeye’s and Raising Caine’s man.
Popeyes is gross too. Probably some of the worst quality food out there, unless just every restaurant here is just bad.
I always wanted to try raising caines, heard it’s good but we don’t have one around here.
Popeye’s depends on location. I’ve had some amazing Popeye’s and some “holy shit how do you fuck up a chicken tender” experiences.
They are building a Raising Caine’s near my house. what’s their schtick?
Star Trek Replicator Chicken fingers. It looks perfect and is always the same, but it’s the type of place where somebody probably got thrown out of a window for suggesting that a pinch of black pepper be put into the recipe. The sauce is pretty decent, but I hope you like it because it’s utterly necessary. Good lemonade too. Founder leans right, but not “Cathy-family” right.
If you live somewhere with a Layne’s Chicken, that’s way better. Popeye’s is generally better too, though it’s traditional fast food grimy versus “pretend we’re fast-casual” veneer that a lot of the chicken places like to do.
Utterly unseasoned chicken, but wonderful bread and good sauce.
Like, seriously, the chicken just tastes like the flour they fry it in. If I go there, I just order bread and a little sauce to dip it in
Oil! Lots of oil!
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Above average chicken tenders at significantly above average prices and so many screaming kids you’ll not be able to hear yourself think.
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One extra large order of the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, please. To go.
Enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy, nothing more, nothing less.
Except they are anti-lgbtq christian nationalists
There’s a reason why Chick Fil A is doing better than every other fast food company: Service.
There’s a reason why Chick Fil A is doing better than every other fast food company: Service.
No, the reason is blind loyalty from Christofascist Christian Nationalists.
Every time you pay them for their bland ass chicken, they spend some of that money on torturing gay kids for Jesus, or supporting a politician that wants to make heresy a capital crime.
You are objectively wrong on this one.
Most people who go to CFA could not care less about religion. They go there because the service is outstanding and people are nice to them, and no other place treats customers that way.
They can get chicken anywhere. They can’t have nice service anywhere else.
While that doesn’t actually match up with my experience growing up in the cult or my experience working at one, I’ll grant that there might be some places where that’s true.
In which case I hope every sorry sack of shit who thinks the cashier faking a pleasant demeanor for their minimum wage is more important than not supporting Christian Nationalism winds up being the next target. Not supporting shitheads like the Cathy family is so far below the bare minimum that if you can’t just not eat the bland ass chicken then you don’t deserve any empathy at all when (not if) the Nazis come for you.
As much as you think that matters to everyone else as much as it matters to you, you are wrong.
You aren’t wrong about what their owners do and what supporting them funds. But 99/100 people going to Chick Fil A just want a damn chicken sandwich. They don’t think about the owners or politics. They think about going somewhere that is fast, easy, and relatively tasty (compared to other fast food places).
Blind loyalty only accounts for a very minor percent of their business.
99/100 people going to the lunch counter just want a sandwich. They don’t care about the politics or who isn’t allowed to sit at the counter
Racist fuckheads only account for a very minor percent of their business.
I’m not sure what point you think you are making here. I already agreed that their owners are bad. I already agreed that people who eat there don’t care about the other people who are hurt by the owners’ policies/practices. And racist fuckheads account for a minor percent of literally every business that has ever sold a product.
Also, I would be careful equating the owners of a large corporation donating money to anti-LGBTQ+ organizations with Jim Crow laws. There’s just a slight difference in level of impact, and it might be offensive to a large number of people.
Bullshit. There’s always 5 extra employees at chickfila, an extra 1-2 in the drive through alone. My order is never wrong at chickfila, I’ve never had to complain of missing items.
Service trumps it all, whether you like the taste or not. I don’t feel cheated, I don’t feel abused. I get what I pay for and move on.
It’s a very simple system that so many others fuck up so badly.
Hope you’re part of whatever group they start finding the oppression of next. Anyone not militantly opposed to Christian Nationalism is supporting Christian Nationalism.
Where do they support that, I’m only familiar with the religious angle.
I’m anti-religion, so it’s kind of a testament towards the business.
Come on my dude they are closed on Sunday for a reason. I agree that they have fantastic service and it is probably a major reason for their success, but they also have a major share of Christian Nationalists that eat there because they are Christian Nationalist and anti-LGBTQ. Anyway here’s a succinct wiki that outlines their anti-LGBTQ connection and Christian Nationalism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick-fil-A_and_LGBTQ_people
And here’s Dan Cathy’s wiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Cathy
In June 2021, The Daily Beast reported that the National Christian Charitable Foundation (NCF), to which Cathy is reportedly a major donor, was helping to fund opposition to the Equality Act.
And just read the wiki page for them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick-fil-A
S. Truett Cathy was a devout Southern Baptist; his religious beliefs had a major impact on the company.[56] The company’s official statement of corporate purpose says that the business exists “To glorify God by being a faithful steward of all that is entrusted to us. To have a positive influence on all who come in contact with Chick-fil-A.”[57] Cathy opposed the company becoming public for religious and personal reasons.[58]
Feel like you almost have to be willfully ignorant to not know about the connection between Chick-fil-a and Christian Nationalism in current year though. Are you just an incredibly uncurious person?
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Yeah, as much as I disagree with the owners religious stance/beliefs, there isno denying that Chick-Fil-A is simple well priced, fast, decent fast food with great ustomer service added on around it. They have a very solid business model.
they are just not yet fell in the abyss of enshittification on the same level as others dropped themselves willingly, but it’s only temporary and enshittification is so much greater than we are 😭
It’s not a publicly traded company.
When you notice some company being way less shitty than others for apparently no reason, that’s almost always the reason.
Publicly traded, or backed by private equity. Both of those situations encourage racing to the bottom, no matter what the founders might want.
Listen, I’m not going to tell them to get bent for doing the only sane thing they’ve ever done, but I’m not throwing them a welcome-to-the-family party either. The lesser evil is still evil and I will continue to avoid so much as letting my shadow darken their doorway.
ONE GOOD THING DOESN’T REEDEEM A EVIL ORG…
I still have yet to actually order with an AI system. Plenty of restaurants around me have them, but an employee always cuts in before I can order.
My family got stuck with one. It couldn’t get the order right, kept doubling an item. Finally my kid asked for 10,000 waters and that caused the human to get tagged in.
I have once or twice. I tried to get something removed from the order and it just kept asking, “What else would you like to add?” and “Will that complete your order?” as I’m aggressively telling it to change something. Human took over from there. I mean, if AI can’t even get something as simple as “can you remove X from the food?” then it definitely explains why most people choose to cut in instead.
I got somewhat forced into one at a Rally’s the other day when I was in a rush and couldn’t be bothered to go somewhere else. It was a terrible experience, both because of the AI and because the food was just awful.
The burrito place near me tried doing an AI ordering thing for their phone service, but I never could get it to work. I told them that it didn’t work, and they gave me the magic words to skip to a human.
Tried this place for the first time out of curiosity and it was trash. Never going back.
