If so I’m a 35 year old gen z lmao

Whether you like it or not they don’t see your vote as an endorsement of the marginal differences, they see it as an endrosement of everything they’re doing, including that genocide thats going on.

Why don’t you care about any of the people in America?

As a disabled person living off federal benefits, with a transgender girlfriend living in a red state, I’m literally got skin in the game personally, so don’t tell me that I don’t care about people living in America. The problem is there is an active genocide going on and the Biden adminstration, including Kamala, are supporting it.

If you think the parties are the same on foreign policy but the Democrats are better on all the thing I mentioned, doesn’t that still mean the Democrats are less terrible?

I dont think they are materially better on the things you mentioned on the federal level as I mentioned in another post. The best they’ve done is nice sounding words. Another thing you forgot to mention btw is immigration, on which Biden has somehow managed to be materailly worse than Trump lmao. So theres that too.

and I would very much like to have an option that wasn’t, but I don’t, do I? I have to chose between the options given, and as bad as they are they’re clearly the less bad option.

You have options that aren’t that and they all involve doing literally any political thing other than voting. I literally don’t care if you decide to vote for Kamala, especially if you live in a swing state. Just please, god, take your eye off electorialism because it won’t save us.

outlaw trans people

What, materially, other than nice sounding words, has Biden and federal-level Democrats in general done to counteract what is happening to trans people in red states right now? What indication is there that Democrats care to do anything for trans people on a federal level? On the state level, sure, there’s been some action to make blue states sanctuary states and such, but federally?

abortion, birth control,

Again, what have Biden and the federal level Democrats done about this? Did they codify Roe while they had the chance? Did they pack the courts so Roe couldn’t be overturned? Did they build abortion clinics on Federal land? Or did they just, yet again, say nice words?

end unions

Biden literally broke a strike lmao. Personally, by his own hands. One of the few proactive things he has done in his whole presidency is to actively break a strike.

end democracy

We already don’t live in a democracy. Youre choice is between outright facism and pretty damn close to fascism, and in most places in the country you dont even get to contribute to that choice.

and otherwise just be totally as bad as Republicans

On forgein policy and economics? Yeah pretty much. On social issues? Democrats will say nice words but, again at least federally, not materially do anything.

Roe v. Wade certainly would have still been overturned if the election in 2016 had gone the other way, too, right?

2016 is in the past and you learned the wrong lesson from it. 2016 taught us that running a shitty milquetoast war criminal neoliberal candidate that noone other than wine moms likes against fascism (and pied pipering him as the nominee because you think you can beat him in the process btw!!!) doesn’t work. And again, both Obama and Biden could have codified Roe and didn’t. And Biden could have packed the courts to prevent the overturn.

All in all, electorialism won’t save us. And the violent solutions you wanted to avoid in your first post are actually our only way out of this mess. But they need to be organized.

I think the thing that most impresses me about this post is how you just completely neglected to mention forgein policy in your list of things like at all. The Democrats and Republicans being the same regarding supporting the US Empire (besides one side or the other pretending to be anti-war while being in the opposition sometimes, but not following through on that once in power) is a huge factor here lol. Really shows your priorities and that you just do not give a single shit about the global south.

The Democrats literally gave a standing ovation to Netanyahoo a couple of days ago,

Err, I mean, I’m on your side in the overall here and think the lemme moron youre arguing with is an idiot. But roughly half of congressional Democrats were not even at the speech, so just saying lets keep our counterpoints in the realm of what actually happened. To be clear, pretty much all the skips announced reasons that were pretty weaksauce so I’m not particularly impressed by most of them. But still, the congressional Democrats did not, as a group, all give a standing ovation to Netanyahu. Thats just inaccurate to say.

Speaking of, are you aware of the problems that Russia has with its far right?

But if i do the reverse of this argument its whataboutism

Listen, the children are victims (women get IDF training same as men though so lol) but they are victims of Israel. Dont put children on the front line of a settler colonial project.

The Hatians killed their masters. Was that wrong?

They didn’t get explicit permission, but they also didnt get shut down.

Also, the “filmed without permission” is weird phrasing anyway. Does every indy movie in other countries get explicit permission from the government to be filmed? A Wiki article for, say, an Australian indy movie about queer people that covers Australian oppression of the indigenous wouldn’t go out of its way to mention “the government didn’t give permission for it to be filmed” because why would it? The government doesn’t need to approve such project. Including the “government didnt give permission” feels like editorializing to make things sound more sinister then they are.

Didnt say it was a government event. Said the governemnt would implicitly have had to allowed it to happen, or it wouldn’t have. Or at least, thats what people who think the Chinese government is an all powerful oppressive force would say. Which is my point.

ETA: Like the fact that a festival like that exists AT ALL, in the nation’s capital, proves that the government isnt an evil opressive anti-queer regime that people paint it as.

Peking University

In Beijing

Sounds like the oppressive Chinese government allowed them to show the movie.

OK I’m sorry maybe I’m letting the autism overflow my brain but seeing you just say “wrong” to technically correct statements that answer the question presented here is just so fucking annoying. Ooooo you got so many upbears from fellow Hexbears who dont want to think but just dunk. Getting very frusterated with this community right now.

Is this a “Islam isnt a race” thing or? Because the these types of laws in France are very clearly targetted towards Muslims and in the west Muslims have been heavily racialized. Races are made up categories so anything can be a race if its treated like one, and muslims are treated like one.

Also France might not technically be “a fascist country” but it has a lot of fascist policies and this would be one.

A response that didnt mock my autism would have been a start. Showed your true colors with that one. I have absolutely no interest in engaging with any of your shitty truscum/terf talking points.

I will say, I’m a gender abolitionist and so is like literally every nonbinary person I know. They arent incompatible.

Its a front for fascists. Like, openly so. Like they dont even stick to the letters they keep because they’ve said shitty things about bi people too. But even then, the idea that you should seperate trans people from a community they helped create is shitty on its face. Its a group trying to split us apart, that could never be good.

Ah, ok, you’re just a fucking asshole then. Let me remove the “adjacent” from my above statement.

Go back to 4chan at this point.

You’re one of those fucking chud-adjacent losers who think that “working class” means white 40something factory worker with a beard, a wife and 2.5 kids, and a litany of bigoted views huh?

Fact is the vast majority of queer people are working class. You can keep picking on Sam Harris to try to write off nonbinary people as being like a rich people Hollywood thing, but the reality doesn’t fit with that. You point out homelessness as one of those things we should “really care about”… meanwhile homeless queer youth are a huge problem you’re just conveniently ignoring. and if you think those kids dont have nonbinary people among them you’re out of touch. Being nonbinary isnt just something for people living comfortably.

https://socialistvoice.ie/2020/02/combating-tailism-and-economism/

The “welfare queen” myth was always a racist dogwhistle from the jump. This is well documented. The “you’re the real racist for noticing racism” bullshit isnt going to fly here.

Which is a completely fair and humane policy of course, but only if you see non-citizens as people.