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2·1 day agoYes because if someone installs the Facebook app they have had their phone contacts list slurped. They then build a map of our circles of friends.
I got flagged on Facebook for using an obviously fake name. So I changed to a more plausible sounding name and it worked. I had prepared a doctored passport scan but it wasn’t necessary.
For another FB account they wanted me to get at least two user friends to verify they know me or some bs like that. I didn’t bother. Years later I was able to log into that one anyhow.
They know that they can’t push too hard.
I don’t know what a software “stack” is but government can packet sniff to see if that kind of software is used but the vendors in this cat and mouse game apparently can sometimes fool the packet sniffers.
China cannot block all VPN’s so it is looking good for us geeks. However we need to educate the masses.
I had my Internet crippled in China in 2012 after I used Hamachi to log into my home computer in Australia.
The crippling got worse if I repeated my action eventually disabling the internet completely for about an hour.
I played this game a few times to pick up on the pattern.
A company can run their own VPN server. A third party need not be involved. The commercial VPN service providers can therefore be blocked by government without affecting those businesses.
But someone pointed out that Hyundai (the subject of the video) is in this group. One wonders if they are there to sabotage it.
Please seek help
Yep, bully, as I said. An entitled one.
And you conveniently avoided the software example (basic vs pro).
I would prefer you discussed the point rather than trying to bully me into agreeing.
It is quite possible that the current seat warming arrangements are such that it ends up cheaper for those who want it (since it isn’t custom installed physically) and is of no consequence to those who don’t want it.
If it was enabled for everyone the price of the car could conceivably go up for everyone. Admittedly that may not necessarily be how it works out but it is a possibility.
That is not a good comparison because people don’t buy the car expecting the seats to have the warming feature. It probably is even offered as an option that the customer rejected upon purchase.
When I download software and pay for the basic tier it has the pro features built in anyhow. I can pay to unlock those pro features but I don’t expect to use those features already just because I already have them.
If I go to the football and the crowd is small enough to fit in the grandstand but only those who explicitly paid for it are allowed into the grandstand I don’t complain about my entitlement.
And isn’t the winking smiley the most relevant for sarcasm?
Some of those options are easy to retrofit, others require assembling to order.
There is a reason why odd colors cost more. If they could change the color with software but the base color was white, it would be fair to only charge those who wanted to employ the tech for a fancy color and let the others have it at the old price (even though both customers have the enabling tech on board).
Two sets of cars, not seats. The seats would be pre installed. Dealers do not be assemble to taste (except for maybe small items like radio).
Chances are that the savings in doing it the current way are not passed on to the consumer but mathematically, technically they could be. Same like self-serve checkouts.
With software it is common to pay extra to unlock premium features. You don’t pay and then download those features. This is the same concept.
You wouldn’t have a warm seat anyhow if they only installed the seat for prepaid customers but it is possible that those customers would pay more because it would cost more to make two sets of cars. Or four sets if optional fancy suspension is done that way, or eight sets if you include digital radio, or sixteen if…
Much of the cost is R&D, not just the physical item.
Do you think all music should be free because it is already online and you downloading an album doesn’t cost the artist even one cent?
Risks exist. Be informed.
He is revealing the risk, he is informing. He is indignant that it is a risk which is deliberately obscured by the manufacturer. It is not a traditional risk most buyers would expect and the manufacturer is exploiting that.
It is reasonable to expect to DIY your brake pads without this exorbitant price.
Good faith trading vs bad
You make it sound like football team loyalty.
I am pro-fairness, not pro-consumer. I don’t think the consumers are justified in their entitlement in this case.
Of course you can do business that way. If the heating costs $x, and half the customers pay for it but $5x is charged then that is a profit.
The alternative would be to make two sets of cars (with and without heating). Or four sets of cars if another similar optional feature is shipped like this. Or 8 permutations if there are three features etc
It can certainly be cheaper to install them by default even if not all customers pay to enable them. ie it is mathematically possible that their system is cheapest for both the manufacturer and the consumer. The alternative would be no different for us cold-bummed drivers but possibly more expensive for the toasted-tush drivers.
Phreeli won’t, at least, offer a platform for spammers and robocallers, Merrill says. Even without knowing users’ identities, he says the company will block that kind of bad behavior by limiting how many calls and texts users are allowed, and banning users who appear to be gaming the system. “If people think this is going to be a safe haven for abusing the phone network, that’s not going to work,” Merrill says.