will this sure is gonna go well :sarcmark:

it almost feels like when Google+ got shoved into every google product because someone had a bee in their bonnet

flipside, I guess, is that we’ll soon (at scale!) get to start seeing just how far those ideas can and can’t scale

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    21 year ago

    I’d still like to start an awful.systems sub for folks to discuss their own open source projects (and in the, what, month or so since I proposed it I’m still stuck on finding a good name), but alongside that it’s becoming very clear that our projects will need a home that isn’t github. I’m having a hell of a time finding an alternative that:

    • doesn’t suck for reading code and docs (everything, even GitHub itself lately, fails here, even though it’s what I spend 90% of my non-work time in github doing)
    • supports pull requests

    there are some nice to haves that so far nothing seems to have:

    • if we need to host it as part of awful.systems, setting it up and administrating it shouldn’t fucking suck. it feels like a decentralized app that comes with the repo and supports local hosting would be a good complement for git, but everything I’ve seen that tries this is fucking awful to use (hello fossil)
    • federation would be amazing. there’s actually a protocol some folks are developing to federate across code forges (aka github clones), but it seems like it’s far from done
    • maybe it also shouldn’t be ugly as fuck? like I’m not expecting much but it’s not charming how many of these look like some shit from the 90s nobody’s nostalgic for
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      I’ve been on-and-off trying to get gittorrent packaged for Nix. I don’t really care about Web-oriented forge workflows; I fully acknowledge that I’m something of a curmudgeon in that respect.

      • @selfA
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        that actually seems fantastic and at least somewhat amenable to the establishment of a web UI (akin to how torrent trackers extract metadata about torrents, but more focused on the content of the repo). is it a nightmare to make a nix package for?

        • @corbin
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          31 year ago

          It’s not a nightmare, but I’ve yet to succeed. npm2nix and node2nix struggle. napalm puts up a good effort, but doesn’t quite work either. The biggest sticking point right now is that cjb used a custom DHT implementation with some patches, and I’ve gotta integrate that somehow.

          I will be overjoyed if somebody else writes a working Nix flake. I’ve tried three times so far, and I bet it’ll take five total.

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            I might give gittorrent a closer look as soon as some of my time frees up. packaging complex node stuff for Nix is always a bit of a pain, but it’s a pain I’m now very familiar with

            e:

            A method for registering friendly usernames on Bitcoin’s blockchain, so that a written username can be used to find a user instead of an ugly hex string.

            ugh I hate this part, but hopefully there’s a way to do something like what Mastodon and Lemmy do for external identity verification

            • David GerardMA
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              31 year ago

              isn’t that literally the Ethereum Name Service but bitcoin

              • @selfA
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                31 year ago

                unfortunately yes

    • qaz
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      Have you heard of https://forgefed.org/ yet? It’s an activitypub extension for developing git forges. Forgejo (from the codeberg people) is currently implementing federation with it.

      • @selfA
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        31 year ago

        I think I saw a mastodon post about an early version of it, but it’s exciting that it seems to be progressing quickly! that might make Forgejo (and codeberg for a hosted version) a contender — I’ll dig a bit deeper and see how it works. in the worst case, forgefed might be the enabling technology for the kind of software I’d like to use

    • Proteish
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      21 year ago

      Is there anything wrong with Gitea?

      • @selfA
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        21 year ago

        it felt fucking awful to administrate last time I tried, but it’s been a good few years