How to neglect the long term - Hayden Wilkinson
globalprioritiesinstitute.org
Consider longtermism: the view that, at least in some of the most important decisions facing agents today, which options are morally best is determined by which are best for the long-term future. Various critics have argued that longtermism is false—indeed, that it is obviously false, and that we can reject it on normative grounds without close consideration of certain descriptive facts. In effect, it is argued, longtermism would be false even if real-world agents had promising means of benefiting vast numbers of future people. In this paper, I develop a series of troubling impossibility results for those who wish to reject longtermism so robustly. It turns out that, to do so, we must incur severe theoretical costs. I suspect that these costs are greater than simply accepting longtermism. If so, the more promising route to denying longtermism would be by appeal to descriptive facts.

WOOOOOOO MORE AXE GRINDING LETS GO!

Okay enough of that, so I was doing a little bit of a foray into the GPI cesspit to look at the latest decision theoretic drivel they’ve been putting out recently. And boy oh boy did I come across something juicy.

Basically this 36 Page paper is one big ‘nuh uh’ to all the critics of longtermism. Think Crary and the like; it explicitly states that critics dismiss longtermism out of hand by denying broadly utilitarian principles. This is all fair enough, but the the philosopher tries to defend longtermism by saying that denying it on broadly normative grounds incurs ‘significant theoretical costs’. I’ve checked what these ‘costs’ would be and to may admittedly quite dumb eyes they look like they’re only be ‘costs’ if you are a utilitarian in the first place! The entire discussion is predicted on utilitarian principles, the weighing of theoretical costs and benefits the consistently bullshit new principles and what I’ve always thought were completely as hoc new rules that they make up to make anything fit the criteria and get longtermism out the ass end as well making the discussion impervious to criticism cos insert brand new shiny principle here it’s fucken dumb.

Not to overstate my case, I’m kinda dumb, which means I could be very wrong here, but even with that in mind I woulda expected better from a PhD.

Anyways to end off, are there any resources that actually go through their math and fact check that shit? Actually wanna see if the math they use actually checks out or if it’s kinda cobbled together.

  • @gerikson
    English
    7•7 months ago

    This was no doubt true for the purely military arm of the British imperial project, but at least for India the Indian Civil Service was associated with higher education. And these were the types who’d feel the need to justify their rule, unlike the soldiers who’d rely on the Maxim gun.

    • raktheundead
      5•7 months ago

      That and the gentry that made a lot of the officer class also had brothers who, going into the clergy, parliament or administrative roles, would be university-educated.

    • Mike Knell
      3•7 months ago

      @gerikson Yeah, that’s a point well made. In this particular instance - did a bit of digging and the “Global Priorities Institute” is funded by… Open Philanthropy, which is run by… EAs. Lordy.