• Flying SquidOP
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    592 months ago

    Sorry… you’re blaming police violence on the nonviolent protesters?

    • @Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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      32 months ago

      Sure, I’m blaming protestors for not being effective. And not specific to any particular event. In general most protests I see in my life have been useless and theatrics. Telling people to just show up and hope for the best in my mind is immoral, unethical and should discussed more.

      • Flying SquidOP
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        312 months ago

        That doesn’t mean the violent police reprisals are the protestors’ fault.

      • @zbyte64
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        152 months ago

        Dunking on protestors “not being effective” is just the worse. It might be useless to you, but to many it is a useful launching point of some meaningful discussions.

        • @Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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          12 months ago

          The worst is seeing important causes lose traction and ground others fought for because some group decides they want to take action without properly being prepared and organized.

          • @zbyte64
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            32 months ago

            Just because you’re not prepared to talk about the protests in a way that gives traction to the issue doesn’t make the protestors wrong.

              • @zbyte64
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                12 months ago

                That these type of events are inevitable and one can prepare and organize to respond with solidarity that shapes the message in the way you think would be beneficial.

                • @Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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                  12 months ago

                  They’re not inevitable and the ask would be that if you do something do it right. If people decide they will get to this point that they take greater care in representing the issue as they have now elected themselves as the face of it.

                  Going back to the fuck cars group. Most people know deflating tires is wrong and will make people angry. Going out and doing it for attention and saying its for climate change harms how serious other people perceive the issue. But my options are not be a coward or go out and show solidarity by shaping this message while I deflate tires. Its being responsible enough to know I don’t have the ability to drive positive change publicly and so I find other ways.

      • Flying SquidOP
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        302 months ago

        You’re not a very convincing troll considering you’re on a forum where everyone can see your post history.

        • @Land_Strider@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          This one is worse than a troll. I’d call them a flooder bearing Palestine flag on their profile picture but almost calling for unconditional Biden support under all posts and a lot of comments of the same posts individually.

          On second glance at their full profile, this is mostly a bot account utilizing some sort of Cambridge Analytica-style, actually trying to undermine support for Biden through the spammy, braindead “I’m on your side, let’s support this thing with the same zeal and rabidness we criticize the right-wing with” false-flag operation on social media.