• @zbyte64
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    36 months ago

    And? I was over at Blahaj when this stuff went down so admittedly things played differently in different parts of the fediverse. Even so, the details of how things escalated should not distract from the behavior that is central to the conflict: ML engaging in censorship motivated by personal ideology instead of making an attempt to be objective.

      • @zbyte64
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        36 months ago

        Come on dude, I just mentioned Blahaj. Don’t pretend only .world has a problem with .ml . And again, the two complaints of censorship raised by the two are not the same. The majority of communities wants moderation to at least attempt to be objective towards history.

          • @zbyte64
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            26 months ago

            Deleting and banning those who discuss tienamen square is pretty damning IMHO.

            • Cowbee [he/him]
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              26 months ago

              There’s a difference between trying to discuss the Tian’anmen massacre and repeating debunked figures like saying 10,000 people were killed, like the BBC did, instead of looking at the vast majority of historical reports that state 300-2000 were killed.

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                6 months ago

                If the discussion is about how a government that massacres its own people and censors even searches of it is bad, then no, rectifying that difference in number doesn’t make the objection go away.

                • Cowbee [he/him]
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                  26 months ago

                  The CPC publicly makes statements about the Tian’anmen massacre, it isn’t as censored as people believe it to be in the west.

                  You should hate South Korea more than China then, considering more people are estimated by the west to have been slaughtered by the state in Gwangju than in Tian’anmen.

                  Nobody thinks it was a good thing that people were massacred.

                  • @zbyte64
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                    Dude, I literally ran a Firefox plugin at one time that gave me the “Great Firewall of China” experience. But just in case, I went over to Baidu and did a search and here’s the official story you speak of (and the only one told in the search results): https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2011-07/14/content_12898720.htm

                    The article does not address how many people were killed or even whether violence occurred.

                    I would call those results to be censorship.

                    Edit: I don’t like the South Korean state either, but not more or less, just different. I’m not here to say which state is more morally justified than another, even when they’re at end stage capitalism.