• @Soyweiser
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    10 days ago

    The People Who Pray At Prompts are suddenly very worried about cults.

    E: haha spoke too soon

    from the replies:

    Do you really think “cult” is a useful category/descriptor here?

    My view: things identified as “cults” have a bunch of good traits. EA should, where possible, adopt the good traits and reject the bad ones, and ignore whether they’re associated with the label “cult” or not.

    Wonder what went wrong there, did they just see the word EA and Cult and went 'people are calling Rationalism a cult again, time to deploy the Rationalist answer. A bot? Something else? (More edit, ah prob somethign else as this is prob a reaction to the whole line of tweets and not that specific tweet, a line of tweets which are doing the geek social fallacies there is a little bit more to being a cult than just ostracizing people)

    • @o7___o7
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      10 days ago

      I’ve been appreciating the term “high-control group” as an alternative, with reference to the BITE [1] model of thought control. People trapped in the group housing situation easily check all of those boxes.

      [1] https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model-pdf-download/ (note: Steven Hassan has done good work, but can be a little too profit-seeking himself imho)

      • David GerardMA
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        good thing Nonlinear has never operated as high-control,

      • @corbin
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        99 days ago

        I’ve thought about this angle a lot too. As an apostate Christian and practicing Pastafarian, I keenly feel the difference between high-control and low-control religious groups, and the control bothers me much more than the religiosity. BITE is still my gold standard to this day for understanding whether somebody is being coerced/controlled.

        Also, if you think cultists get pissed at their beliefs being called a “cult”, watch how much more they flip out at being called a “high-control group”. It’s a very good disarming technique.