Our path to better working conditions lies through organizing and striking, not through helping our bosses sue other giant mulitnational corporations for the right to bleed us out.

  • flere-imsaho
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    75 months ago

    so should he have divorced her in 2017 to prove his ideological purity?

    (waves to the local chapter of the leftist circular firing squad)

    • deborah
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      95 months ago

      To be clear, I was critiquing his smug intolerance to be people who don’t meet his standards of so-called leftist perfection, when he, himself, is as complex as anyone else. I was not critiquing his being married or his living under capitalism.

      • flere-imsaho
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        55 months ago

        fwiw i was mostly annoyed by the “his wife is doing what” in the comment i was answering directly – going after him just because of his wife would be like going after varoufakis just because his wife is supposedly the heroine of blur’s “common people”.

        and i happily agree that doctorow could dispense with his privilege, tone down the smugness and try for less shallow takes once in a while.

    • flere-imsaho
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      65 months ago

      (if we were to question bonafides of leftist intellectuals[1] just because they are supported by someone belonging to the moneyed class, or come from the moneyed class themselves, we’d need to start with certain mr. marx, comrades. and numerous others.)


      1. however you value doctorow’s qualities as an intellectual. ↩︎

      • @gerikson
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        75 months ago

        One of my fav Marx anecdotes is no matter how tough economically the family had it, they never dispensed with the maid. Tbf maid wages were prolly really low, and the maid probably made Mrs Marx’ life easier, but I also don’t think Marx ever thought of the maid’s work as Labor.

        • deborah
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          95 months ago

          Marx (who to be fair was operating in a very different global economy) explicitly excluded servants and other service labor from the proletariat, because he had an extremely industrial (cough gendered) definition of “productive labour.” That being said, he was friends, intellectual collaborators, and possibly lovers with the housekeeper.

          Disclaimer: I am no marx historian; my knowledge of marxist theory tends toward literary analysis. I may be simplifying to the point of wrong.