• @HelixDab2@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    12 months ago

    There’s no way to use that power in a way that’s just though, because the power itself is unjust. Any use of that power necessarily goes against the concept of this being a nation of laws, where no person has absolute authority to enforce their will at the expense of others.

    Of course, if you don’t truly believe in democracy as a concept, then the idea of using an immoral power in a “good” way seems fine.

    • @MotoAsh@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      2
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      If you don’t work by the same rules as others, they win. This is the real world, not a fairy tale.

      Doing GOOD things is good. Period. It’s the same question as, “if you had a billion dollars”. If your answer is, “nothing because I did not earn that money”, you are nothing but a fool.

      • @HelixDab2@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        12 months ago

        Then you don’t believe in democracy; you believe that fascism is fine as long as it’s your fascism.

        End of story.

        • @MotoAsh@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          12 months ago

          No, actually. In fact, working under the same set of rules is distinctly NOT fascist. At all. Period.

          Fascism is rules for the out-group that are conveniently not applicable or simply not enforced on the in-group.

          So, tell me. How does playing by the SAME rules equate to fascism? Your black & white thinking is quite sad.

          • @HelixDab2@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            12 months ago

            How does playing by the SAME rules equate to fascism?

            When the rules are, “the president is actually a ruler that can do whatever they want without legal consequences”, it’s a dictatorship for the ruler to do as they please rather than following democratic laws and norms, even if the opposition would use those dictatorial powers.

            It’s black and white thinking because this is black and white. Either you believe in democracy, or you don’t. It’s clear that you don’t, because you’re insisting that the president should act undemocratically.

            • @MotoAsh@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              12 months ago

              and what if his one “dictator” act were to remove that ruling?

              Again, you are tiny brained and stupid if you think undue power weilded for good things is bad.

              By your logic, ANY and ALL Gods are all evil, absolutely and unquestioningly. That’s … just really, really stupid.

              • @HelixDab2@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                12 months ago

                By your logic, ANY and ALL Gods are all evil, absolutely and unquestioningly. That’s … just really, really stupid.

                Uh, yes. Definitely. 100%. To very slightly paraphrase Mikhail Bakunin from “God and the State”, ‘even if god really existed, it would be necessary to abolish him’. The very concept of a god is antithetical to ideas of liberty.

                • @MotoAsh@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  1
                  edit-2
                  2 months ago

                  While you’re sitting on your moral high ground, evil people are winning.

                  That makes you worse than a bystander. You’re DECIDING to help the horrible people, actively, while knowing they’re horrible.

                  That makes you a useful idiot. Stop being a useful idiot. This is the real world. It doesn’t matter who is most correct in an ideal world when the world is full of terrible people doing terrible things. Either stop them, or don’t.

                  Whining about how unfair things are is EXACTLY NOT stopping them. Do better.

                  • @HelixDab2@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    12 months ago

                    Do better.

                    …He says, as he insists on doing the same awful thing that everyone else is doing.

                    No. I reject that. Do better by being better. You can’t pick up authoritarian power and then just put it back down again. Or, that’s never happened without a leader being forced to put it back down again. Democrats can, and need to, win by being a legitimate party, rather than by being the obverse side of the same coin.