• @kitnaht@lemmy.world
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    I’ve been screaming this at the top of my lungs to the people on lemmy this entire time. Now AOC is losing her shit warning everyone that if this happens, SCOTUS is going to be up to some dirty tricks and you won’t even be able to get a candidate on the ballots fully.

    You guys happy with yourselves now? I hope palestine, your “ideal candidate”, and all the other garbage that doesn’t affect us in the slightest was worth losing the democracy over.

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        Palestinians being subjected to Genocide is not a subject that many Americans care about. The middle east has constantly been a hell-hole of people getting unjustly murdered. We’re numb to it now.

        And do you think that’s going to get BETTER, or WORSE when Trump wins, because of your excessive whinging?

        • @Not_mikey@slrpnk.net
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          Bidens not losing because Democrats are infighting, the GOP are literally shooting at each other and just put up a vp that made his initial career off bad mouthing trump and his base, no one gives a shit about party cohesion. Biden is losing because he’s a bad unpopular candidate, he has the worst approval rating since Carter and is the oldest candidate ever to run. Stop blaming the mostly impotent left and start blaming the establishment that got us into this mess in the first place.

          • @sentientity@lemm.ee
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            84 months ago

            Seriously this. Whenever we get close to elections, people who care about any issues at all are blamed for having any criticism at all of the dems while the shortcomings of the party and the huge, avoidable, deeply embarrassing mistakes that powerful people within it make go completely uncommented on.

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          94 months ago

          I think you can make this same point without trivializing peoples suffering. You are talking about human beings. It is not “excessive whinging” for people to be less numb than you are, even if you disagree with them about whether or not that makes Biden a bad candidate. Like those are real people.

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            I’m a misanthrope, I don’t give two shits about humanity. Half of them would see you dead without batting an eye. Only thing that makes us special is that we were the most violent ape. We’re STILL violent apes.

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              That is… irrelevant? Misanthropy doesn’t get you out of the basic obligation to be decent to other people, including people who live in faraway places. Your rhetoric here is gross and racist. I commented because I thought you might not realize that. My bad.

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                You may want to learn what racism is buddy. Because this ain’t it. Nationalism maybe? Sure. But going around calling everything racist because it involves people not of euro-ethnic origin, isn’t how racism works. I don’t think Palestinian people are inferior to anyone in any way - but I get it. You gotta play that victim card. It’s probably won you a lot of arguments at the playground.

                So, my comment about misanthropy was more to let you know that you were using an appeal to emotion in your argument. An appeal to emotion isn’t a valid argument for something. Especially when the person you’re arguing with, doesn’t give much of a damn for people’s emotions.

                This is basic Trolly Car problem level shit my man. Don’t pull the switch, someone dies that you know. Pull the switch, and 5 people die that you don’t know.

                I choose to let the person die that I know, to save the 5 others. What you’re doing, is letting the 5 die because the person you know is close to you. That’s all. Despite my misanthropy, the benefit for humanity lay more with making sure we don’t lose America to a much larger problem.

                I’d gladly turn a blind eye to Palestine temporarily to make sure we don’t lose Palestine, Ukraine, Taiwan, and America on the larger stage. And you better bet that I’ll be putting up a stink for the Palestinian people just as soon as Trump is NOT elected.

                You lack foresight.

            • @zbyte64
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              Just lead with this and people will better judge the opinions that follow.

    • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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      The US’s treatment of Palestine affects the entire world, but it’s not fully Biden’s fault and Trump would help Russia take over Ukraine.

      It doesn’t excuse Biden for not doing enough to help Palestine though but I don’t think it’s enough of a reason to not vote Biden either.

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      Hey, don’t blame the people trying to fix the mistake that was putting all their eggs in one 81-year old’s basket

      Even Obama himself doesn’t think Biden can win this. No career lasts forever.

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      The USSC has total editorial control over the US constitution and zero accountability. If they had it on their mind to mess with the election they can do so regardless of what happens here.