“Notably, O3-MINI, despite being one of the best reasoning models, frequently skipped essential proof steps by labeling them as “trivial”, even when their validity was crucial.”

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    “Notably, O3-MINI, despite being one of the best reasoning models, frequently skipped essential proof steps by labeling them as “trivial”, even when their validity was crucial.”

    LLMs achieve reasoning level of average rationalist

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      This is actually an accurate representation of most “gifted olympiad laureate attempting to solve a freshman CS problem on the blackboard” students I’ve went to uni with.

      Jumps to the front after 5 seconds from the task being assigned, bluffs that the problem is trivial, tries to salvage their reasoning for 5 minutes when questioned by the tutor, turns out the theorem they said was trivial is actually false, sits down having wasted 10 minutes of everyone’s time.

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        I just remember a professor saying that after he filled the board with proofs and math. ‘the rest is trivial’ not sure if it was a joke, as I found none of it trivial. (and neither did the rest of the people doing the course).

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        This needed a TW jfc (jk, uh, sorta)

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      8 months ago

      “Trivially” fits nicely in a margin, too. Suck on that, Andrew and Pierre!

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      it’s a very human and annoying way of bullshitting. I took every opportunity to crush this habit out of undergrads. “If you say trivial, obvious, or clearly, that usually means you’re making a mistake and you’re avoiding thinking about it”

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        feels like the same manner as my “‘just’ is a weaselword” speech