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      Let me know how that goes.

      Is there an Intro to Furry Guide and a FAQ?

      Are there classes I can take to get Furry Certified?

      Do I need to engage in sexual activity which doesn’t align with my current non-furry orientation?

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          There’s 2 types of furries:

          I paid a ton of money for this fursuit, I don’t want to ruin it by having sex in it!

          I paid a ton of money for this fursuit, of course I’m going to use it for sex!

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            There is a much more common third type of furry: “I want a fursuit soooo bad but I don’t have $10k+ lying around so in the meantime I guess I’ll go to furry conventions and {have sex,just hang out} without one”

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        It’s a one question quiz, actually:

        Do you want to be a furry? Yes or no?

        If yes, congrats! You’re now a furry.

        I’m actually an asexual furry. So no, you don’t have to engage in any sex at all. I like the aesthetic and I’ve met a bunch of my friends through the fandom as a shared point of commonality.

        Probably the biggest question you’ll get asked as a new furry is “what is your fursona?” If you say you don’t have one, everyone will make a pitch to try to sell you on theirs. (psst Maned wolves are cool.)

        For a more in depth explanation, take a look at furscience. They’re an actual research institution studying the fandom.

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          Maned wolves are cool

          As someone who lives where they are naturally occurring, I can confirm that they are cool. There’s also a specific tree (lobeira, Solanum lycocarpum) that’s essential to their diet and needs those wolves to reproduce.

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            That’s awesome! I would imagine that the roar barks at night are probably the stuff of nightmares… unless you know it’s coming from those goofy ass noodle leg guys.

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        I’m guessing people would be weirded out if they knew you weren’t actually furry-inclined, so it’s probably more down to being a good actor, if you’re just there to network. And then basic networking skills, after that.

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        For the real Furry Certificate, you need long socks and to install and use specifically Arch Linux.

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        I found joining a job search counsel via the book never search alone to be helpful. You didn’t have to read the book first because reading the book is part of the JSC.

        Might be worth your time looking into it.

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            Here: https://www.neversearchalone.org/jsc

            I would also recommend the book Take the Work Out of Networking.

            I’ve talked to several recruiters, and outside of entry level positions none of them are interviewing anyone who doesn’t have a referral because there are so many referrals they find enough qualified candidates before they get to the non-referrals. That’s a product of just how bad the job market is.

            I’m about to post two jobs myself with a total comp of ~$180k and I already have enough referrals that I won’t interview anyone that isn’t a referral. And the posting isn’t even up yet.

            The JSC via Never Search Alone paired with Take the Work Out of Networking has all the skills and advice needed to navigate the current job market as successfully as possible.

            I wish you all the best, and am happy to answer as many questions as I can if you’d like.

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              Woah, this maybe a good way of contributing what seems to be a skill I have. Not trying to brag but as a 33 year old skidmark on the national economy, I am currently batting 1000 on job interviews over my life. I have multiple times just quit a job on the spot and had a new one before weeks end. I’m not sure why, or how, but I have never been interviewed and not offered the job. Mind, none of them have required “skills” or “education” beyond what I’ve picked up along the way, they could be called entry level jobs but I’ve never really seen a path upward in any of the companies, doesn’t seem to work like that anymore. Just jobs, ~$40k a year usually with benefits. I have always had a hard time understanding why people who “can’t find work” don’t just take a job that’s available while they look for the perfect one. Spoiler, I have never found a perfect job, aside from working for myself.

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                Because often, if they can even get it, the “job thats available” is so physically/mentally demanding that job searching while you have the job is untenable. They often dont give leeway for job interviews, so even trying is risking your only source of support for the vague chance of something that might be better.

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                I’ll pick up on one piece, humbling ourselves to take a job we see as below us is hard. I’ve done it before and it was a huge ego hit. A friend who’s been unemployed for over a year is facing that now. It’s not an easy path.

                And some income is often better than none.

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                  I guess I have never seen a paying job as “below me”. Some jobs aren’t worth the pay, but that’s different imo. Cleaning up sewer overflow after a storm for $20/hr in 2010 wasn’t enough, but $40 sure was.

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            Yeah, I’m sorry I don’t really know the reference. It seems to be a TV series or a town in the US

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              Yeah it’s a big military/fbi town. The joke was the FBI removed the exemption of people who’ve had sex with animals. I never thought I would see that reading the news.

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                An early job of mine was in the FBI Academy cafeteria. Very familiar with the area. Forgot about the “loving animals” reference, so it took your explanation for me to catch the joke.

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                  That’s pretty cool. My sister and brother in law are there now so I’ll be taking a visit there.

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    Honestly though, I searched for at least 6 months before my brother in law was like “I might be able to recommend you to a guy I know at a company I used to work at” and within the month I was hired.

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      I hope I don’t need to go this route. I’m currently looking for a new job, and I barely know anyone who can give me the hook-up.

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        I’ll repeat this to everyone and it’s not because you’re looking for jobs incorrectly, it’s because you said you lack the “hook-ups”. Professional social sites like LinkedIn are critical for this very thing. So even if you absolutely HATE JOE, you connect because one day Joe will be employed and you might not be and have low enough standards to refer you for that $500 hiring bonus knowing full well you hate his guts.

        So send connections to people in same and higher roles as you work with them like the professional corporate slut LinkedIn wants you to be so that one day that asshat joe willingly sells his soul for $500 and gets you past the first line of interviews and you get a job. But until then, attend local job field events and make new friends.

        Good luck out there to every unemployed person.

        P.s. Fucking joe is a fucking cunt.

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      I had been applying for a year and a half until one day one of the companies was having an open house kinda recruiting event. I went in and the manager said that based on my resume and lack of relevant experience he wouldn’t interview me. He’s now my boss.

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    I feel like a lot of people involved in the hiring process are incompetent and shouldn’t be there. Like you have HR people who can barely use Word asking if you know Java or JavaScript

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      As someone who briefly worked in recruitment, the amount of people interviewed by people who have no frame of reference for anything about the job requirements is astonishing. Some people may say “but surely not for the high-level positions-” No. Especially for those positions. Because people like owners and c-suites want final say. And guess who knows nothing about these positions. Them. They literally hire presidents and vice-presidents based on vibe. Technical positions see a lot of this, primarily because even a bad interviewee is going to know more about their job than an executive whose primary job is the “idea and vision” guy. Just spit enough jargon, laugh at their jokes and you’re in.

      For reference, that company had a head of maintenance who as a friend of a friend of the owners. He just delegated the whole time and hit on any woman he found half-attractive. Thought he was just an asshole until I heard that he had honestly asked a production manager which side of a tape measure was the inches and which was the centimeters. Guy gave a visual run-down on how to use a tape measure to him. The head of maintenance. And he said thanks, and that he’d post it in the tool shed for his staff to reference. It became clear that he delegated everything because he literally didn’t know about thing about his job. I would be surprised if he could point out a phillip’s-head. Apparently he had the same job at a nursing home before that. I shudder to think of why he may have lost that job.

      A few months after he got inevitably let go, he delivered my dominoes pizza. I don’t look down on jobs like that, but that felt good.

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      Yup I had a HR personally message me saying the person I recommended doesn’t have a certification needed for the job. They have that in a different state, getting it in the state the job is in is as simple as saying “hey I passed the same exams you guys take (it’s national), I’m registered and practicing in that other state, can I get approved here?” And they say “sure”. It’s small documentation and a bit of waiting period, but that’s shorter than the training period of the job itself. I said a bit about that but they’re like they don’t have it in this state. Which I’d understand if it’s just a way to say no without saying that person is not qualified for other reasons. Because most other openings I see in our industry gives the candidates 6months to get the certificate because it’s easy

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        I need to find a better phrase than “cargo cult” but I see a lot of that at work. People who don’t understand why a system is the way it is become fanatical about doing it particular ways.

        Like, you have to do “file -> save as” into the directory. If you save it somewhere else first and copy it that’s NO GOOD

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          Yeah. I think sometimes it comes from using a lot of shitty softwares that only work with “happy path” so they like to repeat what works and won’t experiment (because that means repeated work).

          I have a lot of “we have to do it this way”, me: “this is better”, them: “we always do this way”.

          As well as, me:“hey it’s easier this way, I think clients will like this way, even if we do the original they have to switch eventually”, them: “no, they asked for this, we NEED to do this”, me: “can we ask?”, them: “…”, i talked to the clients and they were already thinking about the new one and had no problem, saved us weeks of work trying to back port an already existing solution

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            I just had a flashback to one of my first office jobs.

            They had weekly reporting that needed to be done, and someone non-technical had been assigned to do it. They had like gone into the database and copy-pasted records into excel, and the whole operation took a full day.

            I was like, “Hold on. What? You know you can script all of this, right?”

            Luckily my boss liked me, and let me go ahead. Changed the task into an hour, including making whatever charts and slide-deck management wanted that month.

            Though I do wonder if sometimes doing things badly is a weird pro-labor move- They get paid the same if they take all day versus an hour, so why bother speeding it up?

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              I think that’s honestly how it goes. If you’re efficient and just get more tasks, or get called off for not working (if you’re done with work and doing something else), then you have to pace yourself. Lot if work I get is copy paste this from here to here that takes hours, I could have written an script to do all that in the time I spent cooy pasting, but then I’d be the only one who could do it again. Even though the next time it’d take 5-10 minutes

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      A month after I graduated college I got an interview for a springboot position and I was telling the guy about my springboot project and he was like “we don’t actually use springboot here, we use kafka instead” and I was just like wtf. Dude supposedly had 10 years experience as a dev and somehow my fresh out of college ass knew more than him. (Didn’t get the job, still unemployed and its been a bit over a year since)

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        See your problem was knowing how to do the job. You should have focused on knowing Dave. Dave would have got you in.

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      At past employers it has seemed to me that most of what the internal recruiters do is look back and forth between resumes and job descriptions and throw away the resumes that don’t have enough bullet points matching.

      And now we have AI that can do it even worse and even faster!

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    I got contacted randomly on Linkedin by some recruiter. I needed a job right after college, and figured might aswell hear her out. Turned out my dream job just kinda fell into my lap that day.

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      I hate that I know this, but there is this running gag that furries are mostly made up of computer geeks who are in rather advanced positions within different digital fields. Everything from cyber security to CG animation in kids movies.

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        there is this running gag that furries are mostly made up of computer geeks who are in rather advanced positions within different digital fields

        The joke I heard is that a plane going to a furry convention crashing would cripple the IT industry.

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          Yeah, that is probably the most famous joke. There were also a lot of jokes when the “live action” pinocchio movie came out that the reason the fox was the only well animated thing in that movie was because they got the furry artist to build and animate the model. I believe it. That fox was animated with passion, lol.

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    Unfortunately the perverts I hang out with are largely programmers and nurses and I’m neither, which really kills my networking options

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        Once in a while? Try weekly, more like. Echography is a killer of joints something bad. If you’re a massage therapist and know obgyn and midwives, you’ve got your market right there.

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    As a furry that doesn’t attend conventions, this is having me reconsider it.

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    i reckon you could walk away from a con with a new job, living situation, and even a romantic partner if you wanted. furries are weirdly good at networking for how often they’re treated as weird pariahs by normies.

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      They are outcasts of society, so they stick together. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a network of furies all looking out for each other in every field. They probably have a secret handshake or wink or something.

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    The suspiciously wealthy and poweful furries support more then the arts. Thank you for your community service my furry and scaley friends. The world truly rests on the shoulders of your suit.

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    I was out of work for four months spamming resumes on different job websites before a recruiter cold called me and got me in at my current place so can confirm. Out of five different professional jobs I’ve had, only one of them has been off of job search platforms :/

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    I’ve found that having an opinion helps in job applications, from personal experience. There’s so much AI garbage being thrown around in terms of job applications, so if you can throw in an actual opinion about something, especially if it’s tech related, then that might at least stand out.

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      How do you put an opiniom on a resume? Or are you talking cover letter which at least half of hiring managers don’t even read?

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      laid off a few months ago and I’ve been searching for another senior software engineer role in the US for far too long and have gotten to the point where I’m unironically considering applying to places with a resume that is just a few bold sentences about my aptitude as an engineer.

      Not because I think it’ll work, but because you just start grasping at straws when a decade of development isn’t enough to get past ATS and your resume looks like everyone else’s.

      What have I got to lose? I only even get denials 40% of the time anyways, the other 60% they don’t bother responding at all.