transcription: open letter to the lgbtq. dear lgbtq, you are the most inclusive community i know. it is an honor to hang with you. i think it is time to step up your game and add one more letter. s as in straight. -slgbtq supporter.
THE STRAIGHTS ARE AT IT AGAIN. putting the s at the front of lgbtq is by far the straightest straight person thing i have ever seen
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Jokes aside, this would just mean “everyone that like some form of sexual activity” at that point. Like ignoring the political aspect, the term would just cease to have function.
Alliance against the asexual menace.
The menacing horse meme but it’s a horde of 8 billion people menacingly fucking to spite the asexual community
I mean queer and the + also includes ace and aro ppl
The ‘+’ is not present in the meme.
Queer sometimes includes ace people but typically not, which is why you normally see LGBTQA+ in modern contexts. The Q and A being different groups of people. I’m not making a political statement about A != Q just a linguistic argument about how I typically see the terms used.
As I understand it queer includes more or less every identity that isn’t cishet
But the plus also includes ace, so it’s just… Everyone. Big “all lives matter” energy from the straights.
But the version in the meme does not have a “+”
I adjusted my comment because of that exact thought.
FWIW I find using ‘the straights’ as a pejorative like that distasteful. Like when one gay person does something antisocial and people attribute that action to the “the gays”.
Before reading the actual text I thought the S might have stood for Steve
It’s not difficult to recognize you’re queer. Very few people are 0 on the Kinsey scale. Almost everyone would count as bisexual, if they chose to recognize it and own it.
But LGBT+ is about identity. It’s about having enough introspection regarding your own sexuality or your own gender disposition to recognize that this is an aspect of who you are. And because there are social forces that want to push us out of the community, that identity is also political.¹
But straight is also an identity. Not all mlw folk are straight. Straight means identifying as someone who is strictly heterosexual, often to fit into a society that is uncomfortable with LGBT+ folk. It’s a specific assertion that you are not queer. It’s capitulation to pressure to conform.
For much of my life, I identified as a man who is sexually attracted to women, but I also left room for the possibility that maybe I just haven’t found the right dude.² Not because I felt particularly bi-curious, but having been in a sex positive community, it just felt appropriate to leave that door open. Also having bi- friends and partners, there’s a common experience that people slide around on the Kinsey scale with age.
For straights – people who actively identify as straight – that door is closed.
And in this political clime, closing that door might be necessary; it might be unsafe for you to be anything but straight in your neighborhood without risking exposure to harassment and hate crime.
It’s a liability to present as queer. We do so anyway (when we can, when there isn’t too much risk) as part of a movement to normalize sexual and gender diversity, and promote tolerance in our society. But straights are not taking that same risk.
That all said, the LGBT+ community absolutely invites you to consider with honesty and sobriety what you are sexually attracted to, and how you like to express your gender. And if you find there’s something else there than church-approved cis-gender heterosexuality, explore that and adjust your identity accordingly. Our doors are always open.
¹ Note that LGBT+ isn’t always about behavior, and this can upset some people. For example, there is a subset of the wlw community who only wants gold star lesbians (women who’ve never been with men, ever) in their spaces. They’re a pretty isolated group. The British television series Bob & Rose by Russell T. Davies explores what happens when a gay man falls in love with a woman, and the upset (and antics) that can cause.
² I’d also eventually realize that I’m bi-romantic, which might (also) count as queer nowadays. When it comes to non-sexual love language, I tend to express it with people I’m close to regardless of their gender.
Kinsey scale
I believe on a scale of 0 to 6 I’m an 𝒾, maybe 2𝒾.
Ah yes, the Kinsey circle
I always considered the plus at the end of LGBTQ+ to mean “and everyone else.”. Am I wrong?
I’m a strait and have never felt out of place at an LGBTQ+ event.
I have felt out of place at a couple of the gay bars my friends have taken me to… I didn’t feel rejected or anything and still enjoyed dancing the night away… I just wasn’t in search of anyone that was there. They were strictly G bars tho, not some pansexual playground like the LGBTQ+ places where I’ve had a blast and gotten lucky at the end of the night
I am enjoying thinking of you as a narrow body of water.
Pronounced “slug butt Q” of course.
You can get an S when we no longer need pride.
I think it’s ok for straights to be allied and get a bit of recognizement for deconstructing the toxic heterosexuality that has been built from centuries ago, but this… Is just cringe, when a group gets too broad then it doesn’t represent anything and anyone. These people should just create their own collective of LGBTQ allies.
IIRC I have seen versions of the initialism that include A for “Ally.” Which suits me just fine.
Edit: I’m well aware that the first A is for Asexual. I’m not trying to co-opt anything. Explainers like this are what I’m referring to. I’m sorry if what I said was offensive.
For those who don’t want to click the link, here’s the explanation that page gives for the initialism:
L - Lesbian
G - Gay
B - Bisexual
T - Transgender
Q - Queer
Q - Questioning
I - Intersex
P - Pansexual
2S - Two-Spirit
A - Asexual
A - AlliesThe A is for asexuals…
I feel slighted being demoted by 3 places.
Right. One of them is.
I’m specifically talking about this.
For those who don’t want to follow the link, here’s what the page has:
L - Lesbian
G - Gay
B - Bisexual
T - Transgender
Q - Queer
Q - Questioning
I - Intersex
P - Pansexual
2S - Two-Spirit
A - Asexual
A - Allies
A real ally wouldn’t be co-opting queer culture and inserting themselves in it.
Please refer to my edit to my original post. I don’t want to co-opt anything. I can completely understand wanting something your own, and in no way do I want to infringe on it. I want to support in any way I can. I’m just relaying an explanation I’ve seen for expanded, extra-inclusive versions of the initialism. I’m sorry if what I said was offensive.
I think the disdain is less for you specifically as for the initialism itself.
If the point of all these various initialisms is to find a shorthand encompassing a certain family of marginalised groups, the “inclusive” version dilutes it. It’s similar to “not all men” and “all lives matter”: it doesn’t actually address the root issue, just soothe the feelings of people more concerned with how they’re perceived than how the actual victims of the given problem feel. Besides, being an ally should just be a normal thing for decent people, not worth special recognition.
When trans-* people can get safe, effective and affordable gender-affirming care without having a dozen doctors ask several times each whether they’re really, really, really sure (and also without worrying about getting hate-crime’d), a lesbian couple in a video game no longer sparks a shitstorm, aces get a “skip sex scenes” option for popular shows and pronouns aren’t anything special any more, then we can wonder whether allies should be included. But by then, I’m not sure there’s much of a point any more: what would you even ally against?
If you want a term that includes allies, how about “anti-bigotry alliance”?
I remember someone suggesting a 4 letter acronym that was more “all inclusive” so it wouldn’t require adding letters and symbols every so often. It didn’t seem to take off and I can’t remember what the 4 letters were.
How about five letters: queer?
GSRM maybe? stands for gender, sexual, or romantic minority. I like it more than LGBTQIA+, but its use is uncommon. But at this point “queer” as a catch-all seems to work just fine and avoids the acronym inclusivity issue.
(notable exception being, I’m not sure if two-spirit people consider themselves queer? it is not defined in relation to colonial gender norms as “queer” is, but it is also commonly included in the acronym. anyone know?)
just a PSA, anyone reading this as anything other than a funny joke needs to log off permanently
Ah yes , the classic “it was just a joke bro, don’t be offended” defense
The tone of it makes it very clear it’s a joke.
There is a rage rising up in me rn.
Must… be… OUTRAGED!
↑↑↑This guy internets!
Typical, another Three Arrows antifa
successful troll
- All lives matter
- Blue lives matter
- Not all men
- Why didn’t you speak up sooner?
- …
You know the drill.
SLG is a good acronym for the trans exclusionary ppl tho
(bisexuals you know we’re on the “not real queers” chopping block, probably after enbies)
bisexuals you know we’re on the “not real queers” chopping block
find a reason to add a U in so they can be called SLUGs
They did dodge an SS at the end, maybe important when doing acronyms
It’s giving Pink’s “What about us” vibes 🤮
Ootl: what she do this time? (Already exhausted)
When legalising same-sex marriage was the hot topic she wrote a song (from the perspective of the downtrodden) about how the queer community were left abandoned and “sold-out” while being one of the most wealthy privileged straight white women in the world.
How dare wealthy artists try to help social movements
