I respect their right to be wrong lol
And I yours
Am I in a carnist or even a non vegan community telling you that eating meat is wrong or are you in a vegan comm on a vegan instance talking wild nonsense?
Why are vegans the pushy ones?
I said nothing about eating anything, yet you came to me complaining about “carnists”. That is why vegans are the pushy ones, glad I could clear that up for you.
I think it’s probably more annoying if your comment had nothing to do with the post lol
What is wrong about the belief that systemic animal abuse ought to be avoided as far as practicable?
I said nothing about anyone’s belief. I agree that animal abuse ought to be avoided, however I do not believe that the existence animal products inherently indicates said abuse. I grew up on a farm and ate cows that I had played in the fields with. Factory farms can get bent though, I’m with you on that one.
I agree that animal abuse ought to be avoided, however I do not believe that the existence animal products inherently indicates said abuse.
You don’t understand the ethical basis of veganism if you think it’s about treating animals nicely. That’s why I don’t care about your opinion.
See this post.
I’m not sure what in that post should be educating me, but you are certainly doing a bad job in enlightening me. I agreed with your point about avoiding animal abuse and then you just wildly make assumptions about my understanding of veganism. Frankly it’s fine if you don’t care about my opinion. You’ve demonstrated that your own isn’t worth much either
Edit: I see now that you didn’t make the original point of animal abuse in this comment chain. But I still don’t really care what your stance is anymore
I don’t respect your wrong opinion.
FTFY
That was my first reaction too but then I remembered that I just smile and nod (and dissociate) when carnists talk to me about veganism because I value my mental health lol
Why does one need to be wrong? Can’t both work?
No, carnism and exploiting animals is always wrong
That’s according to you, there’s ways to do it ethically, but of course that doesn’t want to be discussed, and that’s the problem.
Enjoy your echo chamber lmfao.
Both views can exist and be right, but if you’re not willing to accept that, you’re wrong.
No one cares what you think. There are not ways to torture and murder animals ethically. Fuck off from my circlejerk community carnist
I’m not getting into edge cases with non-vegans but I don’t think you are going to find an antispeciest vegan who thinks exploiting animals “works”. What you may be seeing is people deciding it’s not worth it to continue.
Yes, that’s the problem, not willing to accept that someone else can have a valid view……
It’s literally called an opinion, they can’t be wrong. It’s part of the defintion, so use a different word that explains what you’re trying to get across.
Why should I care what someone else thinks about me being vegan? That’s weird as fuck.
