Muse maker Interaxon reportedly trained AI on users’ de-identified brainwave data, then revised its privacy policy after journalists asked questions.

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    “Muse anal probe users weren’t told that the collected data was used to train AI” - stop using Meta products, you dimwits.

  • i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de
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    What does that even mean? If you’re using the device as intended, it collects a few changing numbers while you’re presumably laying in bed asleep. You can train a computer to be able to answer “If somebody is wearing a brain wave monitor and these are the readings, is that person asleep?” Maybe they can infer sleep quality? These types of scanner cannot tell what you are thinking.

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    If it connects to the internet don’t connect it to your body. Finger prints, face ID, blood sugar, brain waves, online DNA services.

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    Why anyone would connect a brainwave scanner to the internet and the wear for 8 hours every night it is beyond me. I’ve run out of sympathy. This is like slathering yourself in blood and jumping into a shark tank.

    At a certain point, personal accountability for your privacy has got to enter the conversation with normal people.

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      What are “normal” people to you? Because usually that excludes the disabled and those with poor health, and those are the most vulnerable to health data privacy violations. You don’t have to care about other people’s privacy at all if you’re so exasperated, but when your health fails you, and it will, you will also find yourself suddenly not so concerned with where your data is going as long as you can get the medical care you need.

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        Hey ding-dong, the interaxon muse is NOT A MEDICAL DEVICE. You’re acting like this is only product in its niche. Guess what? There are a million different snake-oil obvious scams for people to choose from in the medicinal pseudoscience field that don’t connect to the internet.

        You should do even a single minute of research before scolding someone on something you clearly know very little about. This is not medical care. If it was medical care, it would be covered under HIPPA or whatever country’s medical confidentiality laws.

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      I hear what you are putting out there but I can absolutely sympathize with the users. I suffer from chronic insomnia. My worst episode was when I go no more than 90 minutes of light sleep per 24 hour period for a stretch of about two months. It landed me in the hospital, on suicide watch, paranoid, and a lot more.

      Once sleep gets bad for long enough, you’d try anything.

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        I stopped smoking weed to get a job in my late twenties and stopped sleeping more than 2 hours at a time for months.

        People who get sleep just don’t know how bad it gets and how low the quality of life gets.

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          idk how people with insomnia keep it together. ive had some stretches of being unable to get to sleep, or having a really hard time getting to sleep, or waking up really easily, and i swear after a few days of that i was ready to commit a murder. lack of sleep makes me Crazy. idk how anyone could deal with that for months. my condolences.

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      You’re correct, but it doesn’t mean we should stop giving companies bad press when they fail to disclose data sharing like this. Shifting the blame to users only normalizes this behavior for companies offering these products

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    We’re getting closer and closer to that bit in Futurama where they beamed ads into your dreams.

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    People should probably start realising that Capitalism is completely incompatible with Privacy. …and incompatible with ‘freedom’, and ‘Democracy’ and in general, incompatible with any type of nice world to live in, environment, bio diversity and so on… Its not even necessary for ‘innovation’, ‘incentives’ or any of the other made up claims…

    Not sure why some people still support that harmful anti-scientific/ideological belief system, but I guess the Oligarchs constant propaganda and manufacturing consent has something to do with it. Oh well…

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    I honestly don’t know what they expected. Or why they’d pay money for the thing in the first place.