• @Tetsuo@jlai.lu
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    Honestly, I kind of think my country (France) forbids weed today because of all the bullshit of the Reagan era and it’s pretty infuriating.

    Their depiction of weed as some super dangerous class 3000 hardcore drug ended up as some kind of standard for most of the developed countries.

    It sucks.

    • @brainrein@feddit.de
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      162 years ago

      It’s just indication to the fact, that the biggest part of our assumed development, our democracy, or our rule of reason is but a delusion.

        • OctopusKurwa
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          412 years ago

          If you think morphine is comparably dangerous to cannabis then you’re nuts.

          • diprount_tomato
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            162 years ago

            I never said it was, just that it being used as a medicine doesn’t make it “safe”

            • OctopusKurwa
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              252 years ago

              I’m not one of these people that thinks it cures cancer or anything. But comparing it to morphine just muddys the waters.

              It is absolutely safe enough to be recreationally legal. Morphine is not.

              • diprount_tomato
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                32 years ago

                Yeah we know you’re a weed addict, but according to whom is it "safe enough to be recreationally legal?

                • R0cket_M00se
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                  122 years ago

                  As someone who’s drank alcohol and smoked cannabis, yeah alcohol is absolutely more dangerous/obstructive to normal function but no one bats an eye if you go home after work and have a couple beers.

                  Hell when I was in the military it was practically expected that you were going to show up to work hungover since there wasn’t fuck all to do.

                  Smoke a joint on leave? Kicked out, you’re the worst soldier/sailor/marine/airman that’s ever existed.

                  It’s an absolute joke that alcohol is considered safe enough to be legal but cannabis isn’t. Of the two, alcohol should be the illegal one.

                • Cylusthevirus
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                  122 years ago

                  Wow, you really did just type “weed addict” without a trace of irony, didn’t you?

                • @HoustonHenry@lemmy.world
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                  92 years ago

                  Yeah, those damned marijuana cigarette smokers are all whippersnappers, just bad eggs all around! I would never condone ANY devils lettuce, just say “Fiddlesticks to you!”

                • @HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org
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                  62 years ago

                  The governments of Canada, Uruguay, United States, Spain, Jamaica, France, Greece, India…

                  23 countries have recreational cannabis laws.

                  Sit down, shut up, and fucking keep up to date.

                  And the term “weed addict” is some fucking refer madness bs.

              • @kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world
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                62 years ago

                Reading comprehension is fucked.

                Yeah, it had medical applications “just like” morphine. It isn’t “just like” morphine. Fucking hell.

    • diprount_tomato
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      22 years ago

      Or maybe because it’s a drug (alcohol and tobacco are too ingrained in society to be outlawed, and despite that tobacco consumption is decreasing)

      • @Asifall@lemmy.world
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        152 years ago

        I mean there are tons of drugs which are perfectly legal, so I don’t really see that as a sound reason to outlaw it.

          • @Asifall@lemmy.world
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            262 years ago

            And caffeine And acetaminophen And ibuprofen And sildenafil And benzodiazepine And fluoxetine And sertraline And spironolactone And cetirizine …

              • R0cket_M00se
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                132 years ago

                And yet caffeine is more addictive with stronger withdrawal effects.

                You should give up, it’s clear to everyone that you’ve never used the substance and have all your information from drug-war era reefer madness propaganda.

                • Saik0
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                  12 years ago

                  Eh, I’m not a fan of that definition. Technically Water meets the requirement and even skips the “food for nutrition” out that they give.

              • @systemglitch@lemmy.world
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                22 years ago

                Okay I’ve had enough it’s time for me to tell you that you are completely out of touch with reality. Now that you know this, you can overcome your ignorance with a little awareness. Good luck, it’s going to be a bit of a battle to get your perceptions straightened out.

              • @SCB@lemmy.world
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                I “abuse” sildenafil because I get it through someone other than my GP and take it recreationally when swinging.

                It is absolutely a drug.

                • schmorp
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                  22 years ago

                  hm sounds like you’re enjoying yourself way too much sure that must be bad in some way? /s

    • @vivadanang@lemm.ee
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      22 years ago

      considering how much French society despises US policy, I’m kind of amazed that France is still prohibitionist - that really does suck mate.

    • schmorp
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      22 years ago

      It’s just bewildering to prohibit a plant that is easy to grow, serves a lot of uses, and doesn’t easily get you killed.

      I’m also in Europe, and still trying to cope with the fact that I got into trouble with the law for tending a garden. Well I guess at least it re-radicalized me for all it’s worth.

      • @WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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        22 years ago

        I had a similar experience with my poppy field ringed with gympie gympie.

        I’m all for legalisation, and I’m a regular user, but the fact that it’s a plant has always struck me as a weak argument. We can do better.

        It’s one tier better than “It’s natural!” (So are asbestos, arsenic, and anthrax.)

  • @MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com
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    PAWS is no joke, though.

    And after being through enough stop cycles with it I can tell you that there are physiological addiction issues with strong cannabis.

    Loss of appetite, insomnia, pressured speech, sweating, night sweats, and irritability for up to seven to ten days is super common for people stopping regular usage and abusive usage.

    • @ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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      192 years ago

      Those are also typical symptoms of people forcing a change in habits. An acute change if you will.

      Imagine someone who works remotely - when they’re informed they now have to do a 2 hour car commute everyday for no reason other than to see the boss even if it means less productivity.

      Those symptoms seem like a fairly normal response.

        • @5redie8@sh.itjust.works
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          152 years ago

          Do you have any source besides “trust me bro”? The Wikipedia article you linked does not mention marijuana anywhere.

          • SokathHisEyesOpen
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            42 years ago

            I have seen people experience strong withdrawal symptoms when they quit vaping THC. Shakes, massive irritability, sweating, etc. It’s minor compared to opium or alcohol withdrawal, but it looks very unpleasant as an outside observer.

            • R0cket_M00se
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              72 years ago

              I’ve seen people have those same symptoms when quitting coffee.

              • SokathHisEyesOpen
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                22 years ago

                Caffeine is also addictive. The symptoms I saw from THC withdrawal were a lot more pronounced than any coffee withdrawal I’ve seen though. To be clear, I’m talking about strong vape, or dab, not leaf. The dab wax you can buy today is 3x stronger than the hash people used to go to Amsterdam to get when I was younger.

    • @JungleJim@sh.itjust.works
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      The article you linked mentions it isn’t a recognized syndrome.

      *Edit: That’s not to say I disagree it exists; I’ve even felt similar things for a few days after stopping cannabis use. But if the scientific jury is out then it should probably be disclosed that this is the case.

    • Aa!
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      PAWS is no joke, though.

      While post-acute withdrawal syndrome has been reported by those in the recovery community, there have been few scientific studies supporting its existence outside of protracted benzodiazepine withdrawal.[8] [9] Because of this, the disorder is not recognized by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders[10] or major medical associations.

      Maybe not a joke, but it doesn’t sound like it’s taken very seriously

  • @OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
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    102 years ago

    Tbf, my brother absolutely freaks the fuck out if he goes too long without a joint. He acts more explosively angry than itching invisible bugs, but the feeling behind it is the same.

  • cawsllyffant
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    42 years ago

    That looks and feels like a colorized panel from a Chick Tract but I can’t seem to find the source. Anyone know where it came from originally?