• @tempest@lemmy.ca
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        That is better than the opposite. You can have your pants hemmed and taken in where required. It is harder to add material.

        I feel like people these days don’t utilize tailors enough. You can improve a lot of off the rack clothing.

    • Yeah, I’ve had that problem. One of the nice things about Reddit was r/tallfashion – acc had links to stuff with decent waist and inside leg. Have found some women’s trousers pretty good for that too.

    • @RBWells@lemmy.world
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      Women’s pants are also bad about that. I was underweight from stress during my breakup and most women’s tall sizes start at a “6” which is like a men’s 32, more or less. I was not that big at that point. And to make matters worse, many of the allegedly tall pants just have a longer inseam and are not longer in the rise, as though all difference in height is just legs.

      Gap makes tall men’s (I just checked and they go down to 32"waist and have 36" inseam and right now the slim fit is so, so cheap in price) and women’s pants, they actually do make them tall not just longer inseam. I am not tall enough for their tall pants but get the best fit by buying tall and hemming them, because standard fit (to the extent it even exists in women’s clothing) is wedgie city, not long enough. They also make tall shorts, which is amazing,they actually fit.

    • @kurcatovium@lemm.ee
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      What? I’m not slim, neither fat, I’m about average dude, but I rarely ever find pants that aren’t too long. Maybe it’s EU thing, but nearly every time I put on regular pants I feel like a scuba diver with the excesive pants as “fins”. Last pants I bought “short” version and I’d still need about inch shorter…

    • @weeeeum@lemmy.world
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      Ok, why the fuck are pockets sewn shut at all??? I’m a guy and I see clothes like this too. It pisses me off so much, it was so close to being useful, most of a pocket is already there, why would they just give up?

      • @DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works
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        I think the real reason is so that the pockets dont get snagged or deformed while a product is being transported / stored / displayed prior to being sold.

      • @glitchdx@lemmy.world
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        fake pockets look nice. If you need functional ones, just pop the stitching. Usually, the stitching keeping the pocket closed is very weak compared to normal seams.

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        I think the “reason” is that if pockets are available, the pant wearer will put stuff in the pockets. This adds “unsightly” bulk to the pants instead of following the natural body shape which looks “undesirable” and doesn’t influence other people to want to buy that brand and type of pants.

        This is the best reason could come up with and it’s a fucking stupid and infuriating reason. It’s time to become ungovernable. Learn how to mod the pockets back into pants. It can’t be that hard to figure out but it’s still royal bullshit that this is what it’s come to considering how much clothes cost.

        Does anyone buy women’s pants, mod pockets back into them and resell them on ebay? Or do corporations send their lawyers after people that try to do that? The idea of illegal pant dealers is dystopian as fuck.

      • It’s an actual pocket but I didn’t find this out until I was an adult - I thought that’s how they were made for a reason and if I cut the thread, it would make a hole in the pants. Nope, regular pockets just sewn shut for some reason.

        I think I was in my 30’s before someone told me the truth. It was a man IIRC lol…but yeah my mom never knew I guess, friends at school, etc, or if they did they didn’t tell me because I guess they never noticed.

  • @Aggravationstation@feddit.uk
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    This is very true. Men’s pants are tagged with their waist size and will also normally have their leg length on the tag. I’ve got a fairly big belly so I have a large waist size compared to my height so this is useful.

    Having to do the mental mathematics to consider which size I am or having to try on the clothes to get an understanding would be a major pain.

      • @Blackmist@feddit.uk
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        I struggled to fit in a size 34 a while ago.

        Slightly more expensive brand, I fit in 34 just fine. So in my mind I still have a 34" waist.

        I do not.

      • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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        I went to get a couple of pairs of jeans from a Plato’s closet recently. I tried 6 pairs of different brand jeans, all 34/32. 4 pairs didn’t clear my thighs, 1 couldn’t button, the last fit. The cut of the jeans makes those numbers mean very different things…

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          Cut is part of it, but they literally aren’t consistent about the length of the cloth, even with the same number shown.

          “Boot cut” or “skinny” 34 waist from every single brand will differ, even if the cut was exactly the same.

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      I once bought 2 of exactly the same pants at the same time, after having the same one from a year earlier and liking it that much. They were both different to my original one and different to each other. I had to send the too tight one back and the replacement was different yet again. Seems like people just do not care enough that there is next to no standard.

      • @MNByChoice@midwest.social
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        no standard.

        My only charitable theory is that vendors order clothing in batches with only a general description being passed between batch runs. No CAD drawlings in the whole industry.

        • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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          But all of my 3 pants must have been from the same batch but still deviated more than 1 inch in waist size to the previous specimen. So one was too small to wear, the other needing a belt.

          • @KeenSnappersDontCome@lemmy.world
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            They also cut the fabric multiple layers high with a giant stamping tool. The more layers of fabric they cut at once the more variance there is between top layer and bottom layer but the cheaper the process is. Higher quality cheap brands will advertise that they only cut x amount vs what the competitors cut so they have less variation.

      • @VelvetStorm@lemmy.world
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        I know this is anecdotal, but I’ve never had pants size be the same as my waist size, even when I was in good shape.

        • @rekabis@lemmy.ca
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          Then you must have the weirdest waist ever, for a man.

          I am able to go out into any store with my current waist size, and get a good-fitting pair virtually every time without even trying it on. Now, I may not like certain styles - I prefer my belt to be at my bellybutton, not halfway down my hips such that any erection can only ever point down - but men’s sizes are remarkably consistent.

          • @bluewing@lemm.ee
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            Try and find a 38" waist with a 36" inseam. Even in Tall and Big man stores they assume you have at least a 44" waist.

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              Try and find a 38" waist with a 36" inseam.

              Then that is an availability of options issue, and not any kind of issue where manufactures label a pair of pants to be a 38 when it is really a completely different size.

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            I bought several pairs of shorts recently from the same brand, all the same waist size, and some definitely fit better than others. There are always manufacturing variances.

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      Yeah, I wear 33W pants but they measure 36" around the belt loops. This isn’t the result of vanity sizing, though - men used to wear pants that were very high-waisted, but as pants got lower over the decades they kept using the “nominal” waist measurement so that men would still know what size to buy, since the circumference around the hips (where most pants are cut today) is about 3" less more than the circumference of what used to be the waist.

      Pleats are another useless holdover from the high-waisted era, as they made it easier for pants to expand down over the hips and thighs.

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    Unfortunately, that isn’t quite right for guys. Skinny, straight, relaxed…. All these types changes the fit and sizing. I wear one waist size larger for skinny.

    Women’s are much worse sizing wise but the difference is that guys jeans generally just look acceptable . When a woman gets jeans that fit her correctly, they can look amazing. I doubt guys ever get compliments on the fit of their jeans.

    For women, they could use 6- measurements to standardize it but unfortunately a lot of people fall for vanity sizing and don’t want to accept that they gained weight.

    It happens for guys clothing too. If it is a letter based sizing there are huge variations in sizing between clothing companies. For high end brands I wear a large, at Walmart or other box stores, I wear a small.

    • Yeah, t-shirts absolutely suck. I’m thin, tall, and like to wear my pants lower on my hips, so shirt length is absolutely essential. In most cases, L is an inch or so longer than M, so I get L even though M would fit my chest better. I honestly wish they would just make a size between M and L, like M+, which would be just be a bit longer M (like 2 extra inches).

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        We really need separate length and width measurements. I’m tall and very skinny. I usually go for a medium, but sometimes even a small, so my shirts are frequently close to too short. If I go larger than I look like I’m swamped in my shirt and it looks horrible.

      • @blueeggsandyam@lemmy.world
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        I have seen a regular and long but only on high end brands. Abercrombie and Fitch is a good example. Their tops have a size and length.

        • Yeah, I’m not paying $40-50 for a t-shirt. I feel bad enough paying $30 on a t-shirt to support someone’s YouTube channel…

          A t-shirt should be $10-20, depending on branding and quality, maybe $30-40 if it uses some super-fancy fabric or something (e.g. merino wool should be $40-ish).

    • @Shou@lemmy.world
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      I shop for pants in the Men’s section because the woman’s section doesn’t have big enough sized for my wide ass…

  • queermunist she/her
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    Yeah I gave up on jeans and bought a dozen pairs of the exact same pants that fit well, then dyed them.

  • @RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works
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    Sometimes you are different sizes in the same brand. And I don’t mean you might need a small shirt and large pants. No. Sometimes, this pair of pants only fit in large, and this pair of pants only fit in medium. Same brand.

  • @Xer0@lemmy.ml
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    Incorrect. I’m a 32" waste in jeans, yet my waste is much larger than 32".

    • I don’t. I buy most of my clothes at Costco because I’m familiar with their sizing, they’re good quality for the price, and I really don’t care about fashion whatsoever. Also, their fabric is usually kinda stretchy, so I don’t need to be as precise with the fit.