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    Librewolf, but I’d argue it’s more of a Firefox/web debloater reason. No pocket, no VPN ads. I would have said that the only issue is that it is a pain to update, but they added a windows updater and software repos, so I would almost recommend it over stock firefox for normies.

    And I use tor to search stuff that contains sensitive data like my location… Or when a website is blocked

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      This is the argument I keep using for why people should use Linux more. The fact you have to run updater software for each piece of software is so stupid. It’s a horrible solution to a poorly designed problem. On Linux I just tell my package manager to update everything and it takes care of it all. There’s no need for the user to be handling all of that, and it also shouldn’t have to update in starting the application because that’s when the user wants to use it, not wait for an update.

      (For reference: it’s the same thing as on your phone where it tells you the number of things that need updated and you just tell it to update whenever you feel like it.)

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        Windows has had winget for a while now. While not as good as Linux version, I think it’s fine enough for those who must still use Windows for their gaming. 🤔

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          Just FYI, gaming isn’t a reason to stay anymore really. I’ve only had minor issues since switching.

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            For general gaming for sure! Retro gaming is even better on Linux! I am one of those that loves modding their games though, and the tools aren’t there just yet. With Nexus beginning beta for Linux support, I am hopeful that I will be able to switch over soon enough. :)

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              Yeah, that’s true. Modding does suck. KSP has good Linux support for modding, but I think that’s the only one that I haven’t had to do manually. Manual modding is not hard though, but it does take more time.

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              Yes it does. I’ve been playing Squad, Hunt, and The Finals recently. I’ve also played CS, Overwatch, Tribes 3, and some other multiplayer games too. It almost always works, unless they want you to install a rootkit to play, like Valorant.

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        That’s a great point, but Linux Mint hasn’t a repo for Librewolf in a long time, meaning it was only available through Flatpak. It’s not a big issue, but it does break keepassxc, and is a pain considering the drama Debian got over it

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          Last time I distrohopped, this was actually one of my main benchmarks. If I couldn’t install Librewolf in under a minute, I picked a different distro.

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            I hope your benchmark was on something else than a live usb /j

            But now most distros only need to install through the package manager, or at worse add the repo

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      Chocolatey ftw. I was already eyeing it when I jumped to LW so I did the setup for choc and now I have most of my software being managed through it. It’s not perfect but on a schedule, it’s as set-and-forget as it can be for Windows.

      I guess with the exception of using the MS Store, but ew.

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      And as a more advanced user, I need nightly (for custom compiled addons), and just configured everything relevant to be as close to LibreWolf as possible/good for privacy.

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        Fair enough. But can’t be assed to switch every little thing, and keep track of the new ones (like the ad tracker in 128)

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      You can get the same effect with Floorp. I mean it technically still has Pocket built in but it’s 1 click to completely disable rather than all the hoops you have to go through in normal Firefox.

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    Tor Browser serves a different purpose/use-case to the first two. The first two are intended for everyday browsing while I’ve never heard of anyone using Tor Browser as their daily browser—and if you log into websites then using Tor Browser as your daily driver would defeat the anonymity purposes if you’re logging in anyway.

    I use librewolf for everyday browsing and Tor Browser for things requiring a higher threat model.

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    [Richard Stallman] usually does not browse the web directly from his personal computer. Instead, he uses GNU Womb’s grab-url-from-mail utility, an email-based proxy which downloads the webpage content and then emails it to the user.

    If you’re not doing this you’re not properly paranoid.

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    NetCat. /s

    Seriously though, I just use Firefox. LibreWolf is basically Firefox with stricter defaults, and over the years I’ve already tweaked Firefox to use all the privacy features anyway.

    I know there’s some extra sauce implemented in LibreWolf that Firefox lacks, but that stuff seems like too much of a compromise for me (like canvas fingerprinting).

    Plus, I think orange looks nicer in my window list than blue.

    I also don’t use tor or a vpn unless I can’t access anything otherwise. I guess I don’t really see the need to, since I don’t think I’m doing anything that’ll draw the government’s attention.

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      You can turn off canvas fingerprinting or any added feature with a single checkbox. I used to feel the same way about LibreWolf, but once I familiarized myself with the different settings, it became clearly the superior option if you value privacy. I also set my Firefox settings strictly, but then they added new “features” and turned them on by default. That was the last straw for me.

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      I started moving from Firefox to LibreWolf and found a few too many convenient features broke.

      I think password and bookmark syncing was too difficult to move away from, as I use them across devices/phone.

      Haven’t had time to research alternative methods or practices.

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      Firefox may silently opt you into “features” such as targeted advertising. Librewolf acts as a barrier.

      Also “nothing to hide” is fine if you have nothing to say and you don’t care about liberty.

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    Firefox. Librewolf’s defaults make it very inconvenient to use as a normal, day to day web browser. You can obviously change all of that but at that point you might as well just use Firefox with a handful of add-ons so that’s what I’m doing.

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      I just changed my browsing habits. Frankly I’ve also realized having the internet be less convenient has made me more mentally healthy

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        My issue isn’t that it’s breaking sites. It’s the fingerprint resistance making the basic user experience unpleasant. Refusing to remember window size, forcing light mode, etc. I understand why, but those aren’t sacrifices I’m willing to make.

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          Yeah those are the browsing adjustments I had to make. though I changed the window sizing to be letter boxing. After that I left it alone. Plus the resetting of all the cookies and cached data

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      The only librewolf default I find inconvenient is no persistent cookies. I just disable deleting cookies when I close the browser and the other defaults ive not touched. Other than some Firefox defaults I don’t like the behaviour of, but none of the librewolf-specific defaults.

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      Try Floorp.

      It is Firefox based and with additional features. I find it easier to use than the default Librewolf

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    Tor Browser is this kid wearing many layers of different masks and hoodies, and changing them randomly whenever the mood strikes.

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    Librewolf enables fingerprinting preventation which makes some websites / fields very laggy. I can disable it but what’s the point of using Librewolf then? Also using FF is not paranoid, it is the only free software I installed that sticked with my family. Tor has a wholly different purpose.

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    I have five browsers and couple vpns and some extras that I have mix matched to create sort of tier system depending on how legal is the activity I partake in.

    Most illegal though you have to physically relocate to some unprotected hotspot by car