When is the admin going to run out of excuses?

  • coyootje@lemmy.worldEnglish
    159·
    2 年前

    The American reaction in the second frame should’ve been: cool, here’s more weapons.

    • nuke@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
      46·
      2 年前

      How is this making fun of the IDF? Seems to me the topic is the Biden administration’s arbitrary restrictions on Ukraine.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comBannedEnglish
        35·
        2 年前

        to be clear, ukraine went ahead and did this anyway. And then the US lifted restrictions on this kind of stuff (idk if it was completely, but they did do it)

        It’s not really arbitrary, it’s just geopolitics being geopolitics, ukraine and the rest of europe showed that russia would bluff, and we’re supporting them more now.

        I guess it should make sense coming from a partially republican legislature that doesn’t even believe in the ukraine war to begin with.

      • _stranger_@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        2 年前

        The trick to a good proxy war is that everyone involved has to participate via proxy. Russia broke the rules and now we all have to walk on eggshells.

        • aubertlone@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 年前

          Thanks for responding.

          I was mostly just sarcastically joking.

          Assuming most of us had made the switch at some point. Etc etc etc

          In other news I hope you’re having a nice day!

          • MisterFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 年前

            I am a bit of a dunce lol, clearly need my joke meter checked. Hope you’re having a good one also

  • nuke@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
    109·
    2 年前

    Look can’t I just be happy a Russian airbase was attacked?

    Hahaha

    FUCK YOU RUSSIA

  • istdaslol@feddit.orgEnglish
    89·
    2 年前

    Ah yes Ukraine and Israel are both American proxy wars and not totally different conflicts with different politics run by independent countries

  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.eeEnglish
    62·
    2 年前

    They did what?

    Also, the auto fill results when you type in “Israel bombs” are interesting.

    • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      2 年前

      Russia supports Iran while the US supports the paragons of Israel and Saudi Arabia. Kind of like the US was leaning Pakistan while Russia leans India. Now China finds more value with Pakistan than we do though (which will eventually make us do something stupid to “support our interests”).

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        11·
        2 年前

        Yeah, I still don’t understand the Pakistan thing. Pakistan:

        • harbored Osama bin Laden
        • has pretty uninteresting economic output
        • has serious beef with their much larger neighbor India, and are somewhat friendly with Iran and China

        Whereas India:

        • has a ton of people
        • already has pretty extensive economic ties to the US, which could be strengthened, and is a ripe alternative to China for production
        • has tensions w/ China, so we have mutual enemies
        • is highly unlikely to harbor any of our enemies

        Yet we keep them at arm’s length.

        I could say the same for Israel and Saudi Arabia. Why are we so intent on picking the worst possible countries in a given region? The only explanation is that we want war…

          • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            2 年前

            More like India remembers our position in the cold war and doesn’t have any desire to be beholden to us. Doesn’t matter if it’s the Hindutva or INC, neither are friendly to US hegemony. I’d hold the same position if I was them of course. I mean we still embargo Cuba for fucks sake.

            • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              2 年前

              This the same India that’s been spending the past 20 years cozying up to us? And vice-versa, of course, we’ve been very interested in India as well.

              Pakistan is the major stumbling block remaining, not the policy of half a century ago.

        • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
          4·
          2 年前

          India is a contender for becoming a major power in a multipolar world, where the US is not the hegemon anymore.

          So it makes perfect sense to help Pakistan and stir the conflict so, India is slowed in its advances to become a major power.

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            2·
            2 年前

            I guess. But on the other hand, a closer union between the US and India should give the US a chunk of that growth, as well as allow the US to shape how India develops.

        • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          2 年前

          I think they’ve gone beyond somewhat friendly with China. They’ve got PLA troops in Pakistan now doing anti terrorism work. The chances of the Chinese establishing a naval base in Pakistan is far from remote at this point, though I think it would be a back channel red line from the Americans regarding further military funding.

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            4·
            2 年前

            Pakistan doesn’t export any oil, and while they have discovered oil reserves, western companies aren’t interested due to security concerns. So it’s not oil.

            I just don’t see it.

            • ElegantBiscuit@lemm.eeEnglish
              3·
              2 年前

              50 years ago during the Cold War the economic trajectory of the two wasn’t so different, and pakistan also included what would become Bangladesh. Nixon was opening relations with China after the sino Soviet split, and India probably wouldn’t agree to ally with someone who was in the process of economically integrating with a country that they were actively fighting a border war with (sino Indian border war 1962-present). Pre Iranian revolution Iran was also a major ally and shares a significant land border with Pakistan, and probably most importantly, Pakistan was an ideal country to serve as a funnel for military assistance to the mujahideen to help fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, which would arguably lead to the economic drain and political quagmire that was a primary factor in its collapse.

              Of course the mujahideen would then evolve to become Al Qaeda which Pakistan would harbor, Iran would have its revolution, Bangladesh would gain independence, and the Pakistani military dictatorship would squander the potential of their country on a nuclear program and trying to maintain an army of equal strength to a country 10x their population. But the choice had a lot more geopolitical merit way back then, and once it had been made it is not so easy as forgive and forget or to counter the logistical inertia just because the circumstances change.

              • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                3·
                2 年前

                the choice had a lot more geopolitical merit way back then

                Yeah, it’s not easy to change direction, but I think it’s long past time to do so. I don’t see much point in a US/Pakistan alliance these days…

    • Match!!@pawb.socialEnglish
      18·
      2 年前

      netanyahu needs Israel to have more enemies so that he can maintain a stranglehold on power indefinitely. basic fascism

  • ristoril_zip@lemmy.zipEnglish
    4·
    2 年前

    Is this a permission versus forgiveness example?

    Of course, now that Ukraine asked for permission and NATO (not just the US) said “no,” if they deliberately attack that’s extremely bad.