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Nemeski@lemm.ee to Linux@programming.dev · 1 year ago

Russia Mulls Forking Linux in Response to Developer Exclusions

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Russia Mulls Forking Linux in Response to Developer Exclusions

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Nemeski@lemm.ee to Linux@programming.dev · 1 year ago
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Russia plans to establish an independent Linux development community after the removal of Russian contributors from Linux kernel development.
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  • adr1an@programming.dev
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    Dear all, please remember that engaging with trolls can get you banned (rule of thumb, half the time the offender gets for themselves)

    Write what you want others to read, I don’t care if there are disagreements. But go get a private chat room if you want to exchange insults with them :)

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    Go for it. That’s one of the benefits of being FOSS, and other countries have their own versions of Linux already (that meet whatever dumb authoritarian rules are required).

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        Clearly best downstream of Fedora comrade. Complete with open source anti capitalist technology to save your eyes from the truth the totally inferior OS of the west.

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          you have to make your own distro from scratch

          I don’t think you know how this works lol

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        I’m pretty sure Android isn’t North Korea.

        Although what do I know.

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    A national fork? In Russia?

    Sometimes the jokes write themselves.

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      It would be “interesting” at best.

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          Because Russia is under sanctions. They would have to take everything into there own hands which means they would basically have a separate project.

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            they would basically have a separate project.

            That’s what a fork is. Happens all the time.

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              It really doesn’t happen all the time. It is pretty rare for a fork to be successful especially if most of the development is still happening on the original project. I don’t see Russia having much success with this.

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    Ok, that was always allowed!

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      I wonder what they’ll call it. Will they keep the “Linux” name?

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    Why not just use Red Star Linux? I thought Jong Un and Vlad were besties.

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      Well to be pedantic, Red Star is a custom DE on top of Linux, not a kernel

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    Okay then, that was always allowed

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        Lemmy.ml radiation is leaking again

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            Nah thinking that Russia gonna somehow grow using inexistent money for R&D and compete with US(?) Is pretty moronic also calling them forking the kernel as “blowback” it was clear for everyone that they would do that, except Lemmy.ml I guess, so yes I like my echo chamber of less delusional people

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                God, did I started a discussing with ChineseGPT 💀

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                  See, you can’t refute anything I’m saying. It’s pure jingoism all the way down. Everyone you disagree with is a foreign enemy and a robot.

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            They took my third party apps. I’m here now.

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                Reddit refugees

                Calling them refugees is an insult to actual refugees.

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                One thing neo-liberals and dictator loving pretend-communists agree on: Reddit is a cesspool.

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        Wow sounds like great news for Russia and a huge win for them then, I’m sure their internet trolls are supporting this decision instead of crying about it all over the internet, right??

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        Pick GDP, manufacturing output or whatever metric and look it up: Russia is not even close to the US. China is the one playing in the same league as the Americans.

        As for open source being dominated by the US, the stats for Linux development don’t give that portrait at all.

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        I dunno about all that… but I guess it’s a positive that you’re at least acknowledging that this is about sanctions and not racism or some other stupid bullshit.

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      BRICS Linux.

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        BRINUCS

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    regardless, a country should maintain their own fork regardless if its being used for government computers.

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            Russian doctrine hasn’t evolved past Soviet era, why should our jokes? What’s air defense doing by the way? Oil fields and refineries and storage facilities just keep exploding.

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    Oh man I fucking called this one, as soon as I read that article a few days ago saying that the Russian maintainers were removed from the kernel, I’m like man if Russia was smart right now they would do a country-funded version, this is completely legal as well under the licensing of the current kernel.

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      It will last a month before they realize it is really dumb

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        Honestly I started writing a comment asking why it was dumb, and started writing points why it would be good, then came to the same conclusion that it was dumb. The amount of money they would have to put in to make it good is more than they can afford.

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          'Cos all kernel contributors are paid…?

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            Well yea, if the government is running it, they’ll probably pay them?

            Also many of the regular kernel contributors are paid because they work for a company that hired them to do it

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      Yeah it was funny to see people taking a lone C++ developer more seriously than this.

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    In Russia, Linux forks you!

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    I would be very surprised if such a fork would diverge from Linux. I would guess that this would be little more than a branch with (most likely) support for Russian hardware. Just my hunch.

    A legitimate hard fork doesn’t seem particularly smart to me, but what do I know…

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      “I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, Rus/GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Russian Federation plus GNU plus Linux minus Linus.”

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      It’s not about a divergent featureset, it’s about making sure Russian businesses can continue to legally use Linux if the US decides to make that the next step

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    Only possible because its FOSS. Hopefully this shows more governments why FOSS is awesome.

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      This will only show the idiots over at Western governments that FOSS is hurr durr bad, lets Ruskies evade sanctions

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    why wouldn’t they just contribute to kylin, considering russia and china’s allyship?

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