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return2ozma@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

iPhones Seized by Cops Are Rebooting, and No One’s Sure Why

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iPhones Seized by Cops Are Rebooting, and No One’s Sure Why

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return2ozma@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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Cops in Detroit are sending out a warning about what they suspect is a new security feature in iOS 18.
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    If this is indeed a security feature I’m about to buy my first iPhone.

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        Wouldn’t this make your phone reboot all night while you’re sleeping?

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          It will only reboot once unless it is unlocked again https://grapheneos.org/features#auto-reboot

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            I keep mine on in case of family emergencies, it’s also my alarm clock

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              The only solution would be to simply turn the setting off at night, or have developers add an automatic scheduling option. Of course, you can just set the timer to be longer than your sleep schedule as well, but then you miss out on security.

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                Iirc phone calls and alarms still work after a reboot in the lock status, it just disables biometric unlock and keeps the filesystem encrypted

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                  Well, funny thing–I was once late for a job because my alarm didn’t go off. Guess why? Yep, auto reboot. There was even a notification saying the alarm didn’t go off. Very odd behaviour, but that’s what happened.

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          Presumably it doesn’t reboot unless it was already unlocked.

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          You can adjust the time.

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        Two hours seems extremely low.

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          On grapheneos it’s a setting, 18 hours by default I believe, but adjustable from 10 minutes to 72 hours.

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            That seems much more reasonable. Thanks for the info.

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        What is the good thing about a phone rebooting?

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          When you input your password, then your biometrics (faceID, fingerprint, etc) become active. A restart requires you to enter that again. The police can make you put your finger on your phone or look at it, but they can’t make you divulge your password without a court order.

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            There are have also been some exploits that are possible ONLY while the machine is booted and already in that state unlocked state, rebooting relocks all the HW encryption and clears main memory.

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          Law enforcement have tools to bypass lockscreens and access the data on the device. They use backdoors and exploits, so older phones are more vulnerable. Most exploits only work if the phone has been unlocked at some point since it was booted.

          This is why law enforcement keep them powered-on, and in a faraday cage. They are in a state with a better chance of unlock, but have no signal so nobody can remotely find/lock/wipe it.

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      Don’t switch to a privacy-violating platform just for a feature found in open source operating systems.

      https://grapheneos.org/features#auto-reboot

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      Android has it as well. It’s customizable, too.

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      It should be, but it appears to be a bug.

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      https://lemmy.world/comment/13350847

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        Bug has been promoted to feature

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      Just use a pattern to lock your phone. Police can’t do shit if you have that set up.

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        It’s not the lock, it’s the fact that phones are usually encrypted after a reboot (to oversimplify). As the article says you have extra security measures to protect a freshly booted phone.

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