I’ve been on lemmy for over a year now, and I just realized I used to read all those HackerNews articles + their comments, I haven’t done that in probably 6 months because the discussion here has gotten much better. What’s changed for you with Lemmy over the last year?
Started to participate in discussion more and pleasantly surprised actual conversations happen and the comment section is not flooded with generic bot shit within minutes.
When I first came here, I was so jaded, with the expectation that every account was a bot or an asshole. Seeing the actual conversation among humans has been nice.
Absolutely. The jadedness coming off of reddit is real. Took me half a year to slowly start participating
In my view, Lemmy ecospace became a lot more dark. People are snarkier, less prone to engage in polite conversation and divergent opinions get hounded.
I also sense an increased tendency for doom and gloom. Nihilism is on the rise, as well.
Would you say the doom and gloom is Lemmy specific, or more of a global thing, given the state of life ATM?
I’m only on Lemmy. Can’t speak for other places. On my day to day life, people are concerned with living their lives.
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It’s definitely not just a Lemmy thing just any site that grows a user base.
I kind off think of it like the difference between talking to random people at a local hobby space vs a national convention. Sure you’re gonna still find people with shared interests but you got more people coming in with an agenda or chip on their shoulder, Or just general trolls who target larger groups because it’s more people to get a rise out of.
But you’d have to consult some sociologist or someone for a in-depth factual answer, I’ve just been on a lot of random sites/forums over the years.
Honestly Lemmy has handled it’s growth a lot better than most places online I’ve seen. I’d say people on here are pretty raw but not actively spiteful (mostly), which I very much vibe with.
Agree. The size of the community seems to correlate with the number of trolls, which can quickly change the tone of a platform. Trolls are more active, outspoken, and literally feed on negativity.
Great point.
“Doomers sure love doom scrolling”
does nothing about the amount of doom in the world
less prone to engage in polite conversation
What the fuck did you just say to me, you little shit lemming? I’ll have you know that I graduated top of my class in online forum debates…
/jk
Yeah, yeah, yeah… and Happy New Year!
That’s interesting because for me it’s the opposite, or maybe I just don’t notice it anymore. But when I first joined people were almost always hostile to one another. I feel like that’s not the case anymore.
Among American users, this probably has a lot to do with the recent election.
I can’t see a flag near the nick, so I just try to treat everyone with respect.
Still better than Reddit, where a divergent opinion is grounds for a permaban.
Not saying that makes it ok though, it still sucks, just a little less.
I see that too recently. I just call them out, report, and block.
A lot more comments like reddit that are the quick (very tired) zingers. I was happy to get away from that but I’m sort of thinking of putting lemmy down if it gets worse.
I don’t need your “this.” Or “broken arms” or “that’s insulting to trash” etc.
It’s beyond tired. But it gets up voted and can dominate the comments section. I appreciate threads like this one that promote actual discussion.
I feel that, too, but also…
There’s a large number of news articles that it feels literally pointless to respond to with anything other than jokey derision because it feels like we’ve been talking to people about those issues for two decades (or more for some of us) and no one listened.
So, with a lot of it… what is there even to talk about anymore and instead crack jokes to try to feel less dead inside?
I fully agree, but at the same time find myself making jokey throwaway comments on the millionth thread about “turns out Trump was lying about his campaign promises!!!” as if anyone with a fucking brain couldn’t figure that out since at least 2015. It just feels pointless to engage with beyond comedy when the media continues to sanewash that guy.
I would love to slap down my copy pasta in every poltical post about how First-past-the-post voting artificially limits the number of viable political parties to 2 and is the greatest barrier to effective non violent change in the country. But people don’t want answers, they want to be mad.
And the mods kept banning me. Even when I ran the copypasta through chat GPT to get a unique comment every time I posted the pasta.
Why the fuck should my comment change at all when the solution hasn’t changed?
Some or most of the people upvoting this stuff is just part of the lucky 10,000
I completely agree. It’s tiring to ask a question and then have some low-effort absurd answer every time.
any advice on washing my cat without her scratching me?
is it two metres long and has orange and black stripes and are you in a jungle? try a tranq dart first
park it on the driveway and get a hose. oh wait u said ‘cat’ not ‘car’ #oops!!
ez bro just dress in a SWAT bomb defusal outfit. works every time.
yeah jeez thanks. It’s worse than no replies.
Sorry, but… “broken arms”? What does that mean, aside from its literal interpretation?
Famous story of a son who broke both arms and the mom felt bad he couldn’t masturbate so she started jerking him which led to more…
It’s very fucked up story. But whenever a similar topic comes up someone has to say “I bet he had broken arms” or something like that.
Similar one is “shoes came off so he’s definitely dead” whenever some fall or other force throws someone to the ground.
It was funny at one point… Maybe like 6 years ago. But like jfc there’s no original thought, just echo chamber zingers.
Oh another one: “I also choose this guy’s dead wife”
While I understand your sentiment, the coconut will never not be hilarious
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Lemmy is teaching me things by accident.
Most recently; I’ve started learning media literacy and now I can see all the same manufactured consent and narrative shaping that exists in legacy media and social media like Facebook and reddit; but in .world and lemmee too
I will always link Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing” when this subject comes up, haha.
I wish the .worlders & lemmee’s would open up a book to learn this for themselves.
Yea… 🫠
The hard truth is .world and .ee deserve to make their space exactly like reddit and/or facebook if that’s what they want.
They have their space, we have ours. The weekly feud posts at .world are hilarious. Desperate attempts to keep the barn doors closed so no one escapes to the better instances.
These sorts of people eventually show their hand and people will leave on their own. Most recently the Luigi related debacles.
Desperate attempts to keep the barn doors closed so no one escapes to the better instances.
i wonder if this is why .ee rose to prominence in user counts.
Of course, there must always be tribalism.
Lol
My goodness, that was a roller coaster. Although I found it lacking in cohesiveness (I’m not sure that the evidence supports the conclusions), it’s certainly a thought-provoking article. Thanks for the link.
No problem!
Your go to
All of the “a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide” spammers mysteriously disappeared
Edit: my point is that they seem awfully quiet about Trump
I mean, the vote happened and she’s not running anymore, sooooooo not really a reason for them to keep talking about that issue?
Also, I remember a couple usernames from some of the most vocal and I just went and looked and it’s not like they up and deleted their accounts or stopped using Lemmy. They’re still active, so they didn’t “disappear.”
@queermunist@lemmy.ml was pretty loud about that opinion and they’re still here, for example.
I know reddit being flooded with bots for 10 years has made y’all jaded but real people with real opinions that differ from ours shockingly still exist.
they’re still here
Her pronouns are she/her
I will
NEVER
log off!
The election ended, the Leftists are still here. What were you expecting to happen?
Is this a joke? They didn’t leave, the election cycle did.
Wonder why? /s
Same reason people aren’t still discussing who will win Euro '24
You shitlibs are still whining that leftists didn’t want to vote for your genocidal ghoul?
The liberals are desperate to blame anything and everything they can to justify not changing a single damn thing about the democratic party.
Because they know the blue conservatives won’t change. Their donors will not allow it.
“No, it’s the voters who are wrong”
I’m still here posting about the flaws of the voting system that gives us two shit options to choose from.
Are you working to replace First past the post voting in your state? Now is that so venerated time to push for these changes at the state and local level.
Don’t you care that your country men/women/and more are under represented by their options at the polls?
Upset over 3rd party voters? Best get back to passing electoral reform in your state then.
You wouldn’t tell people how to vote and then do nothing to fix the voting system that is the source of the problem would you?
Lemmy has become my main social media outlet. For better or worse, Lemmy’s just my kind of place. I’m off of all mainstream social media except LinkedIn, which I barely use, but keep around for work related reasons.
I do still peruse Reddit, mainly for TV shows and niche subjects I can’t find here. But I haven’t logged in or posted since the first major exodus over the API pricing, and have no plans of returning.
I do post on Mastodon from time to time, but the format is just too geared towards short form content, and ultimately just isn’t my cup of tea.
So yeah. I’m generally happy to be here with you all shooting the shit about politics, Linux, etc. Long live Lemmy!
Hey bud, you dropped this
Here’s one from me to help.
It’s actually had content for me now
Starting to see different people reposting stuff on similar communities, which reminds me a lot of that other site. Not a huge fan.
I’ve also started noticing people downvoting instead of engaging when they disagree with something as well, which is frustrating.
I wanted to let you know there is an option in your settings so you don’t see upvotes or downvotes.
Lemmy (AFAIK) doesn’t even show you your total upvotes (karma… whatever it’s called) by default either. None of these imaginary points fucking matter.
So why don’t you do yourself a favor and uncheck these boxes and not give a fuck what others think about your comment.
I know I have.
(Lemmy is rad as fuck)
Probably a solid idea - thanks for the suggestion.
Not sure how well it will work with my mobile app but I will look into it!
Definitely seeing some people doing mass downvotes. By that, I mean they disagree so much with a person’s post that they then downvote other, unrelated posts by the same person.
I suspect I have a bit of an “anti-fan club” these days, I’ll have the sole downvote in threads for a benign opinion that goes along with the rest of the comments, but I don’t pay it any mind.
My participation has dropped a lot compared to when I only just joined. There is only so much us centric doomer content I can stomach, and Lemmy is so extremely political that it is impossible to just browse cat memes and have a good time. So I spend less time here I suppose.
I almost never see political content or cat memes. I think your experience comes down to your subscription list.
I just block those that post that stuff. Lemmy is small enough that that works to a sufficient degree 👍 it’s a small group of prolific posters
Don’t forget to block me as well! Peace.
I just started filtering all of it
This is the way. I am happy to hear you are taking control of your lemmy experience.
It’s so much better! Filter, report, stand up, and block. I’m so done with people being unnecessarily rude and I immediately stop contact with them here. If it’s me I try to apologize. All that garbage should stay on reddit
Sounds like you don’t understand how to curate the content lemmy has to offer. I understand the hesitation, there just isn’t as much content here as there is on reddit.
But if you don’t want to see most of whats here, just don’t visit 4 times a day like people do with reddit. The content turn over is slower, so adjust your usage accordingly.
More content and more comments. I basically only use mastodon and lemmy for my memes nowadays and as general social media.
Lemmy is my only social media interaction these days, the content has improved, and the communities feel more distinct than they did a year ago. That could just be me getting up to speed though.
It was a nice surprise finding out that the left wing instances on here are actually pretty chill, way more so than on Reddit these days.
I peaked into r/communism and it’s genuinely awful. Full of the most toxic people I have seen in the supposedly “Marxist” communities. Surprisingly Lemmy is way more chill than Reddit.
With the end of the US election, there has been a bit of an ideological demographic shift, but more of a strong wind than a foundational upset.
It seems more active now. Which has been great!
The cell phone apps are a lot better nowadays. They look a lot better.
I’ve been posting more fedi content instead of just the popular links.
Well, I’m here now. So there’s that.
You’re welcome. /s
