• kmartburrito@lemmy.world
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    What a fucking loser. Who does that to their closest ally? Hey Canadians, there are a ton of us in the US that are fucking disgusted by this that also feel helpless. Please don’t let this man make you hate all Americans. Trust me, he is pretty talented at dividing people.

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      Its not a hatred of Americans. Its a hatred of America.

      The culture. The arrogance. The lack of respect for other nations. The blatant ignoring of rules and agreements they brokered. The list goes on.

      All things Americans have turned a blind eye towards for decades.

      So yeah, we know not all Americans are bad but theres no denying this has been allowed to happen.

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        Right, unfortunately it’s not Canadians job to make sure every single American they interact is “one of the good ones.”

        It’s an unfortunate guilt by association, but many, many, many of us Americans exhibit all of those qualities: arrogance, lack of respect for others, blatant ignoring of rules and agreements. Just generally being an asshole bully.

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        I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but I’m not quite convinced this was a legitimate victory. He mumbled something about “Elon knowing voting machine numbers” or some such on inauguration day. He’s letting Elon’s kid tell him to STFU on camera and is just sitting there taking it? Nah, something doesn’t add up to me.

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        I just hope that y’all understand that those of us trying to flee are on your side 🥲

        It’s the ones who want to stay behind that you should be worried about

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          Ehhhh, just wait till shit really hits the fan.

          The ones who helped this all happen will be the first demanding to be let in because… *checks notes… They are entirely selfish and arrogant.

          Give it time, and you’ll be competing with them to flee somewhere.

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        Nah, it’s some hatred of Americans too.

        Trump isn’t some dude who took power in a coup, he was elected by a pretty decisive margin. The house and senate are also GOP and were elected by a majority. And, this isn’t just about Trump. I clearly remember how the US verbally attacked Canada under George Bush Jr. too, because even though Canada was willing to send soldiers to fight and die alongside US soldiers in Afghanistan, it wasn’t willing to go on an adventure in Iraq too.

        This is who the US is now. Some dude posting on social media that “hey, it’s not all of us” or “this isn’t who we are” or whatever is empty. If you’re out in the streets, day after day, then sure, I’ll respect that effort. But, really, the US is now the Nazi Bar, and I don’t like Nazis.

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      Oh we’re pretty united. When some dipshit from North Dakota says he can’t wait to show us why they have the 2nd amendment and “clear out the liberal wackos” at a professional engineering conference, it really ties the population together.

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        The same 2A pussies who say the guns are to stop gov tyranny have suddenly become silent. I guess they just wanted THEIR preferred form of tyranny.

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          By “tyranny” they mean (1) being expected to pay taxes to enable society’s basic functioning, and (2) being expected to treat others with respect.

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      Who does that to their closest ally?

      Someone looking to sever ties with that ally. Everything Trump does makes the US weaker - his goal isn’t to acquire Canada, it’s to damage the US.

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        I don’t think there’s a solution that both clears out the far-right and leaves this country intact. (And in my opinion, it should probably be like five distinct countries)

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      Trump’s closest ally (or “dom” if you will) is Vladimir Putin.

      And he would stand to gain from any damage to US and to US-Canada relations. If US actually starts fighting and fucking up everything, it takes the heat off Russia and all US aid getting canceled will not be good for Europe and especially Ukraine. But also so many other places around the world from USaid.

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    Should any attempt be made, I will kill as many Nazis as I can on my way out.

    Fuck trump
    Fuck maga
    Fuck Nazis
    Fuck musk

    As they say in Iran (and so many other nations), “death to America”

    Give me liberty or give me death, eh.

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      lol pathetic little amerikkan soldiers would last about 6 seconds in a saskatchewan winter. Sure, bring on your ‘invasion’… hahahaha

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        When I was in the Marines, and before I was in, and after I got out, we regularly trained in Norway, (oddly enough in an effort to dispel any notion of Russia coming west, funny) in the coldest parts of Norway. It wasn’t fun, but it’s silly to think the most well equipped and active military in the world somehow doesn’t train to fight in the cold.

        I’m out now, but when I was in, I’d say the majority, a vast majority, would not be interested in fighting Canada. I can’t see America and Canada entering a war. I can see Canada capitulating to America’s demands. I see it creating a lot of bad will between Canadians and Americans, and I see the ultimate conclusion being one we could’ve worked toward together, instead of what is ostensibly bullying.

        Us regular people down here are still your friends.

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            Always have been 🌍 👨‍🚀🔫 👨‍🚀

            Most people keep their heads down and try to lead on their lives, feeling powerless against the gov. Once people have nothing left to lose, they will start fighting back but who knows when that’ll happen.

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    Does he not understand that it will require a full-scale war for that to happen?

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      Not just a full war but constant costs for occupation with a populace with easy and common access to drones, guns, and explosives.

      I think it’s unlikely that Canada would formally resist and hold the border for long… but Canadians are really fucking pissed about this bullshit.

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      That’s the biggest problem. You need either Canada’s consent (which he can’t get) or to win a war with Canada plus the rest of NATO.

      The second problem: it would make way more sense to become 10 or 13 US states. With respect to both area and population. That would be a big disadvantage to his party in congress.

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        This is why it’s very evident that it’s a distraction from the grift.

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            The US government coup in broad daylight. Plus whatever the fuck else he’s doing that’s not making it into the news cycle because of other shit taking up the time.

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        That would be a big disadvantage to his party in congress.

        Would it though?

        Most of the western provinces are very conservative. They’ll just gerrymander everything to give the more liberal sections one or two states and then another 12 states worth of senators and reps that are purely Nazi.

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        You’re dreaming if you think NATO minus the US would fight the US if the US invaded Canada. There would be some excuse made, or some technicality found.

        As for becoming states, what’s much more likely is that the US would make Canada a territory like American Samoa: no electoral college votes, no senators, no congressional representatives, not even US citizenship.

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      I think he imagines that starting needless conflicts makes him look tough, not like the clueless moron he is.

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    Turnip and his cronies so desperately want to divert everyone’s attention from the dumpster fire they lit that they’ll say anything … me and my moose are on stand by for any invasion.

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    I’m definitely serious about Scarlet Johansson sitting on my face. That’s more likely to happen than Canada becoming part of the US.

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    Putin wants the US, Canada, Greenland, and Russia, all under Russian control as the globe heats up.

    The Arctic sea will become more important than Panama. Which is why trump is also eyeing Panama.

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    I’m more interested in becoming a Canadian province.

    And I dare say, if the US did officially go to war with Canada, New England (and probably New York) would be likely to switch sides.

    And they would in all likelihood bring with them all military bases and forces within their territory.

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      Not secede but they could refuse to participate and could actively resist. The west coast and Minnesota might also. Lots of military probably have family in Canada also. Canada could sneak raiding parties into the US to knock out transmission lines, utilities, etc.

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        Why not secede?

        Actually, if this rhetoric gets much worse, I’ll be in favor of a succession “dead man’s clause”. We could put forward a referendum question on the next state ballot to explicitly ask the public, a question something like “In the event that the federal government were to declare war on Canada, or demand territory from Canada, or assume control of Canadian territory or engage in military action against Canadian forces or civilians, are you in favor of recognizing federal authority to make such actions, or conversely, are you in favor of denying that authority and refusing to participate in or support any such actions.”

        I mean, that’s just off the cuff, you would of course still need to get real specific with all the language and make it absolutely clear what a yes vote or no vote does. But if states ran referendums like that, it would make it exceedingly clear to our governors and sensors where the public’s opinions fall, and what their duty should be. And so then if something that truly idiotic were to happen, we’d all be prepared.

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    I’d really like to think that the governments of states like California, Oregon, Washington, and New York would work with Canada to resist this stupid stunt and offer to instead become canadian provinces. I mean, if we’re doing stupid shit about control of borders or whatever, and these states are already being attacked by Trump and giving more to the Fed than they’re taking back, why not just offer our GDP to Canada in exchange for a functioning Federal government, with healthcare for our citizens too?

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    I say do it. Because then whether it comes in as one state or 10, one per province, they’ll be blue states. Because they’ll all hate Trump for all of this bullshit. I’m sure the Republicans will love it. It’s not like they’ve been fighting tooth and claw to keep Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia from becoming states because they would be blue states, or anything.

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      I heard that it is the defenseless arctic that is Canada’s weakpoint, due to ice melting.