“Remember tariffs are a tax, and they’re primarily a consumer tax,” Scaramucci added. It’s “a consumption tax, sort of like a VAT [value-added tax]. And that’s a regressive tax. So what ends up happening is the poor people — it eats up more of their disposable income than any other income group.”

“Tariffs are actually — we’ve had a lot of experience with them. They’re an act of war, to some degree,” Berkshire Hathaway (BRK-B) CEO Warren Buffett said in a new CBS News interview on Sunday.

  • Snot Flickerman
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    More like a depression because our unreliability is likely to kill the US dollar status as the world reserve currency.

    • They use recession because they’re afraid of using the big D and admitting that we’ve had several since, like in 2008, which was only not a depression on what is effectively a technicality, IIRC.

    • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      It’ll be the greatest depression

      Unironically that might wind up its historical name which would be really funny. The thing people often brush off is that history is written by the historians, so don’t piss them off too much if you care about legacy

      • @anomnom@sh.itjust.works
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        These dipshits are gonna hire their own lackeys to write it. If they don’t care what we think now, they aren’t going to worry about what historians will think later.

    • @rayyy@lemmy.world
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      Crypto scams ain’t gonna save you

      The crypto scam is supposed to enrich the scammers, not anyone else.

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    Republicans regularly crash the economy. Then they get to bailouts (and select the winners or losers for that), and buy up assets cheap. The way the population has been convinced, against all evidence, that republicans are better economically and fiscally is a triumph of their propaganda.

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    President musk has explicitly stated that they are intentionally making things worse for the average person.

    Reporting this active effort to manufacture a recession as “Trump may put US into a recession” is journalistic malpractice.

  • @Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml
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    It’s fascinating, because the people behind him are genuine grifters and/or delusional ideologues, he can’t even make proper politics in the interest of capitalists. (Just in the interests of some individual capitalists, against the interests of national capital accumulation).

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      Capitalists love depressions because that’s their opportunity to buy everything for cheap. Last time the orange shitstain did this, $1 Trillion went from the poor to the rich.

      • They like recessions not depressions, folks have a tendency to get violent in depressions. Why follow orders when your stomach is empty and there ain’t a roof over their head.

          • Also depressions tend to have a knock on effect where it wipes out their wealth, this is probably why they are trying to force crypto. Though I suspect that if they crash the USD crypto will also implode.

      • @Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml
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        I think you might be onto something there, still remains in favour of individual capitalists against national capital - and is usually something, the state is supposed to prevent (it’s jobs in capitalism are mostly preventing class conflict between bourgeoisie and proletariat just as much as conflict between individual capitalists hurting the economy at large).

        But this now feels like 19th century economics from before understanding the nature of crises, and 19th century “sphere of influence” geopolitics all in one.

        Here’s hoping they end up shooting themselves in the foot by underestimating the consequences of their actions.

    • @Gilles_D@feddit.org
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      I‘m not convinced that the civil society can put a quick stop this madness, unfortunately. I am very convinced that the capitalists that are not in on the Trump scheme will.

  • @Pofski@lemmy.world
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    To me it seems as if the plan is to make it worse for the average person, up till a point that it is almost unbearable. Then spin the narrative blaming the other countries for the situation. Get the base riled up (history has shown that that is quite easy to do). Declare martial law and “expand” American territory.

    -> No elections during war time?

    Ah, just thinking out loud here. Probably overreacting…

      • @Revan343@lemmy.ca
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        Definitely in tandem; once you’re at war, you can round up the local undesirables as spies/enemy sympathizers/etc

  • @Redditsux@lemmy.worldOP
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    When rich capitalists tells you it’s bad for the economy and for the poor, you know shit’s in over the deep end.

  • @DrFistington@lemmy.world
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    He already fucking is. Look at the markets. The Trump Slump won’t stop, and the recent volatility in the markets is 100% due to him and his administrations dumb fucking mouths and actions. Hmm, you know who would love to see the US in a recession? Our enemies, and billionaires (who are also our enemies). To them it’s just a good time to buy the country.

    Trump is straight up a fucking traitor. His death will be violent, and beneficial to the American people, as will Musks.

  • @GooberEar@lemmy.wtf
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    I’m just a dumb normie, but it looks pretty clear to me that this is the goal. And even if it’s not purely the goal, it’s certainly the completely expected and predicted outcome of this chaos.