The US has rejected a Canadian proposal to establish a task force that would tackle Russia’s so-called “shadow fleet” of oil tankers, according to reports last night.

Canada, which has the current Group of Seven presidency, proposed the measure ahead of a meeting of G7 foreign ministers in Quebec later this week.

In negotiations to agree a joint statement on maritime issues, the US is pushing to strengthen language about China while watering down wording on Russia, the reports said.

  • halfempty
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    The G7 has been compromised. EU had best work without the US now. The US is now led by a maniac who likes Putin, and wouldn’t blink at betraying all the US longterm allies.

        • Lit
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          A showman TV show actor Krasnov Trump and a S.African nazi court jester Elon… what could go wrong.

      • Eugenia
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        514 days ago

        The US is led by Peter Thiel. Putin is there for convenience.

    • Riddick3001OP
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      2015 days ago

      The G7 has been compromised.

      Unfortunately, that’s probably true for the whole world order.

      I want to hope that the new one will be better, but oftentimes history tends to disagree with that notion. Yet I’ll remain fighting for a better tomorrow.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
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        Unfortunately, that’s probably true for the whole world order.

        That’s fortunately for us here down in the global South. Let the oppressors (which Europe also is to be clear) fight each other and leave us alone. Sucks for Ukraine though.

  • Optional
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    6515 days ago

    God fucking damn that rapist traitor and all the shitheads that put him there.

  • Riddick3001OP
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    I mean apart from the logic of sanctions, those shadowfleet boats are “environmental disaster” ticking timebombs. They are not very safe or seaworthy.

    Some of them have extreme strange huge anchors, which tend to drag 100 km across the oceanfloor and mysterously break critical communication cables in Europe and so. Others have dubious highend technical devices on board.

    Nice detail is that somehow they end up being owned by a Hong Kong Ltd.

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      They’re basically modern privateers - acting on behest of their leader nations, but with public deniability. Every once in a while I wonder what it would take for a Nemo-type character to show up, commandeer a submarine, and start stalking/hunting them.

    • Creative Computerist
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      Nice detail is that somehow they end up being owned by a Hong Kong Ltd. - Riddick3001

      Just out of interest, where did you hear that the boats from this shadow fleet are registered by a company in Hong Kong? There would be some irony if China would use this as the final excuse to take over Hong Kong, to “clean up the mess” that Hong Kong companies have been causing internationally.

  • Lit
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    4415 days ago

    create a new coalition of G6 let US stay in G7 alone.

          • @madscience@lemmy.world
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            915 days ago

            My mom was from New Jersey. I have a lot of family there and only one cousin is MAGA. I know most Americans are ok but if this happened now it could happen again.

            • @ghostrider2112@lemmy.world
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              Oh, as long as we have gerrymandering, I guarantee that it will continue to happen again. That is why my wife and I had been on our way out of the country permanently for over a year. But, unfortunately, ran into some unexpected roadblocks for now.

        • @peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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          615 days ago

          Oh I don’t think we expect you guys to trust us at all for a long ass time.

          When the adults come back we just want to make sure we can bring the rest of the country up to speed. It gonna take a long time and a lot of restructuring to build trust again

          • @cmbabul@lemmy.world
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            715 days ago

            The United States as we have known it for all of our lifetimes is dead, adults will never steer that ship again. There are certain portions of it that may be reasonable and trustable allies again at some point. But the current form of my country will never return to reason. I genuinely hope you don’t think we’ll have free and fair national elections again

      • Match!!
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        815 days ago

        we’re gonna have to join as a legally distinct new nation

      • @wewbull@feddit.uk
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        314 days ago

        How are they going to do that when your democracy has had it’s flesh picked off it’s bones?

        • @ghostrider2112@lemmy.world
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          Well, I needn’t remind you who has the most heavily armed populace on Earth. It’s just a matter of us all making sure those of us that know better convince those that don’t yet see. There’s just a fuck of a lot of them…

          • @wewbull@feddit.uk
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            That military is a damn good reason to reverse this now before it becomes a military dictatorship. It’s easier to resist now, while the vestiges of the old system still exist than when it’s entirely corrupted.

            Your checks and balances have failed. You literary have someone taking a chainsaw to government. Your judiciary have declared your president immune, and your representatives are silent.

            Waiting for the next election isn’t an option.

            • @ghostrider2112@lemmy.world
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              Oh, for sure, the next election seems like an eternity at this point. I’m doing my part, and always have for the most part, and will continue. I’m not saying it is entirely hopeless, but my current best hope is that the rumors of the people of Atlantis going to space, or having advanced undersea dwellings, are true, and that they come back to rescue us.

  • @landshark4@lemm.ee
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    2515 days ago

    Please kick us out of the G7! Turn off our power. Tariff everything. Make us hurt - that is the only way we will get rid of trump. Once social security goes away people will finally realize what is happening

    • Ms. ArmoredThirteen
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      On one hand yeah fuck the US we could do with being knocked down a bunch of pegs. On the other I worry desperate people are easy to control. It would create a very strong “us vs the world” vibe that fascists love to take advantage of.

  • @Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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    Why don’t they just move ahead with the plan regardless of America? The US has made it pretty clear they intend to depart NATO, and so the rest of the organization may as well just move forward regardless of what the US says.

    The US position here is “We are rethinking our position here, and thus can’t get involved in any new business,” which to me is fair. Regardless of how anyone feels about their decision to leave, if they’re deciding to leave, it makes sense to not start something that will keep them involved.

    • Riddick3001OP
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      Why don’t they just move ahead with the plan regardless of America?

      It’s in the article. G7 is about consensus. Doesn’t mean other parties won’t have their own plans.

      • @Saleh@feddit.org
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        515 days ago

        It used to be G8. Then Russia got kicked out for… Invading Crimea!

        Now that the US wants to join Russia in carving up Ukraine, it is due time to make the G6

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    Make it a G6. Problem solved. Russia isn’t in the G7 so it shouldn’t have a vote or veto in the first place. Not directly nor by proxy.