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    I think the carceral system is broken, and I think that imprisonment is an incomplete/inadequate way to address crime. I’m sure there are plenty of good discussions about alternatives are taking place, just not on fucking HN.

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        Yeah, our society favouring punishment over reparations is so sick and absurd and all we get to enjoy are those … bitter crumbs of schadenfreude … Not that it will stop me cheering when bad things happen to bad (powerful) people but wouldn’t it be nice to live in a society that’d let us be magnanimous.

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          100%. I think that’s part of the human condition- in the absence of justice, vengeance is a hollow substitute. (It’s also the heart of good batman interpretations imo.)

          P.S. while I’m talking about DC- it’s not cool to like optimistic superman stories over the dark, evil superman stories (including things like the boys, invincible, irredeemable etc.), but I do anyway. To me and many others, superman is a blatant metaphor for a global superpower/the US. Evil supermen stories are reflections of our current reality. Good supermen stories are ones of hope.

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        Tough on crime, but only towards companies. Many enterprises deserve a corporate death sentence. Company dissolved, assets seized and placed in an unemployment insurance fund to be dealt out to the employees who aren’t culpable for the corporation’s crimes.

        I don’t need SBF sitting in a jail for decades, I want him to get dunked on just hard enough to make him regret scamming all those people and then never work in finance ever again.

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    Excellent, well-informed take here from the replies:

    In the case of drugs, no one really goes to jail fo doing drugs, only selling them.

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    Come for the libertarian solution to crime, stay for the dude who says lead being toxic is an elite plot.

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    God this whole discussion, utilitarianism is a disease.