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empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Not The Onion@lemmy.worldEnglish · 5 个月前

Kash Patel Is Polygraphing FBI Staff to Find Out if They’re Being Mean About Him

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Kash Patel Is Polygraphing FBI Staff to Find Out if They’re Being Mean About Him

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empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Not The Onion@lemmy.worldEnglish · 5 个月前
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The Trump loyalist has subjected dozens of his own team to the lie-detector test.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/32819644

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    And you thought J. Edgar Hoover was paranoid.

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      Is he short? Seems like a short kinda guy

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        5’9”, but I can see that Short Height Indicator Type all over him, some people call it being SHITty

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          That’s short

          • bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip
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            Maybe according to tinder. In reality that’s pretty damn average.

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              No, I’m just 6’5"

              Edit: downvotes? Do you reject reality and substitute your own?

              Edit edit: apparently it’s just an “I’m angy that I’m short” button

              • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip
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                Do you reject reality and substitute your own?

                Quite literally what you are doing by calling the exact average for a US male, short, just because it’s not freakishly tall like yourself. Some self awareness may be in order.

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                  You don’t seem to understand.

                  I am literally 6’5". That fact is being disagreed with.

                  Furthermore, y’all are short.

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            • rozodru@lemmy.world
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              “The truth is like poetry, and everyone I know fucking hates poetry”

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          Youd think all the evil would weigh him down even a touch

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        Happy cake day!

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          Happy 2 weeks, Baby Little1 :)

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        Haha body shaming much funny

    • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Probably is a job requirement for the position actually

      • shalafi@lemmy.worldBanned
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        Pretty sure I’ve read that it is, but the issue here is retesting employees that are already onboard.

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    Cops and pseudoscience go together like chocolate and peanut butter.

    For more examples, see “bite mark analysis,” “911 call analysis,” “blood spatter analysis,” roadside drug testing with known false-positives, and even fingerprints (once the gold standard) have up to a 20% error rate.

    And that’s not even getting into how their methodology is exactly backwards: they have a claim that they set out to prove, but do no work to disprove what they already believe.

    • FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      but do no work to disprove what they already believe.

      But that’s the LAWYERS job /s

    • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I think it’s only been used to convict 1 person but, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optography

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      I don’t know if it’s true (let me know if I’ve been taken for a ride), but I’ve been told that you can make it look like you lie on a polygraph simply by contacting your anus and slowly unclenching while answering, throwing their analysis out the window.

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        Really puts the “anal” in analysis, if true.

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      At least he doesn’t look paranoid…

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    Is polygraph test reliable ? Doesn’t it fall under pseudoscience ?

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      It is not reliable at all, and yes, it is widely considered to be psuedoscience. Yes, this is a batshit insane scenario

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      You can even train to beat them, so it’s definitely not a reliable method.

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        And, I would assume, if anyone had done that training it would be FBI agents.

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          Lol right? This seems more like a “can you beat a polygraph test” test, than a loyalty test

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      It’s more of an anxiety-detector. It has no basis in fact.

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    Real leaders don’t need to be paranoid about what their underlings think about them. Fascism is more fragile than it appears.

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      “[Their] need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.”

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      Real leaders would take the time to understand why someone doesn’t like them, do a little self reflection to see if it’s either a valid point or just a perception issue, and then work to fix the issue if there is one. If it’s just a person who just doesn’t like them but is good at their job, just ignore it. If they are truly not a good fit or just a bad actor who just thrives in negativity, then you either find a better fit for them or then you fire them.

      I’m very much a pleaser type personality but if someone doesn’t like me for whatever reason, I don’t really sweat it if it doesn’t affect me personally. Most people like me but not everyone and that’s ok. This constant need to be surrounded by yes men and sycophants is just disturbing.

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      True. And real leaders don’t want to lead.

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    government of fragile masculinities

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      So wait… It’s not Tiny Dick Syndrome?

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    MAGA: The real snowflakes

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      The “original” snowflakes. “I can’t drink from the same water fountain as a colored person!” Type of people.

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    Wouldn’t FBI agents be able to pass a “lie detector” test? Has anyone told Kash they aren’t actual lie detectors?

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      Polygraphs have always been close to useless even for normal people. Anyone being interrogated isnyoing to be nervous and likely set them off.

      However, you have to be slighlty, remotely intelligent to understand that nuance. And that is not an affliction any Trump cabinet appointee has.

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        Polygraphs provide authoritarians the excuse to get rid of people.

        The same way that scientology uses auditing. The point is to instil fear and doubt into whomever you’re measuring so that you can manipulate them.

        So, they are extremely useful.

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    Good thing polygraphs are junk science that doesn’t work literally at all.

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      Good thing the system already selects for people that can pass polygraphs without much issue.
      It is also junk technology.

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    Enforcing polygraph testing will invariably make people less trusting of you. There needs to specific reasons that target specific people.

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      As if anyone trusted Patel anyway.

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    What a dork-ass loser.

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    Damn dude that’s some serious trump energy

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    The fragilest of beings

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      Republicans/Conservatives in a nutshell.

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    Isn’t the FBI trained to beat polygraphs though?

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      Only in as much as they know it’s bunk that only works if the participant believes it does.

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      And the ones behind the FBI director’s back.

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          I welcome that. It is better than living in the Fascist States of America for the rest of my life.

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          Bloody sequels…

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