• WanderingThoughts@europe.pub
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      10 个月前

      Because lobbying is also done be environmental groups, neighborhood groups, consumer activists, … Ban lobbying would deprive a large set of the population of their voice

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      That would outlaw scientists lobbying the government to stop things like global warming and pollution. It would stop mom and pop shops from lobbying against things that are good for massive corps but bad for them.

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          So what defines corporate? What defines paid? You’re excluding mom and pop shops and even medium sized businesses from your definition. How are lawmakers supposed to know if their law is gonna harm specific industries if businesses can’t tell them?

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            Paid is by definition anyone paid to do the lobbying. Corporate is definitely harder to define, but let’s say you’re only allowed to lobby on behalf of your own organization (or self)

            And, better yet, let’s make every single lobbying effort public - Times, dates, people involved, and the subject raised (but perhaps not the outcome). Good legislation should happen in the open

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              So paid would include the owners (if it’s an llc or similar), it would include anyone sent by the owners even if it’s not their job title, etc.

              I’m pretty sure you can request all that information as well, with a FOIA request.

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                I concede this is complicated, but i think we can all agree that paid lobbying groups are a cancer on society.

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    Notice that they’re still committed to allowing the kind of bribing called “lobbying”, just not that specific example of it…

    This is called cosmetic “Principles”, see?

    establishment NEVER guts its own corruption…

    Never.

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